cooey model 64 disassembly question...

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how the f do I remove these two screws, they are on so damn tight... i am afraid of damaging the metal...

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you are gonna have to remove them, if you can put the assembly in a vice, that may help. You can also use the side of the flat bladed screw driver if it is thin enough. I had to use the back of a small swiss army blade to crack the one near the trigger.
 
you are gonna have to remove them, if you can put the assembly in a vice, that may help. You can also use the side of the flat bladed screw driver if it is thin enough. I had to use the back of a small swiss army blade to crack the one near the trigger.

i removed the back bolt behind the trigger with a bit of force, but of course i have completely destroyed the front one... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 
how embarassing, i do parts for a living and in a effort to be quick i was wrong. the gentleman above is correct 77 is the front barrel clamp stud, 74 at the rear of the trigger.

This Savage guide is good but not everything is the same as the old Cooeys, but the basics for teardown and clean up are very helpful.
 
well, i was able to get it apart.. with some damage.. it was able to get back together.. i'll get the parts on order though..
 
Is it possible to use an impact screwdriver on these? They loosen screws pretty neatly and are cheap.

Lordy NO you don't need to do that. A little GOOD penetrating oil, tap it a few times with a hammer and wait a few hours. Put the receiver in a padded vice. Rear screw needs a big flathead screwdriver, that's all. On the front, don't be afraid of padding some vice-grips if you can't get it started (this nut has the stock mounting screw through it, so the screwdriver tends to walk out of the slot edges).
 
Lordy NO you don't need to do that. A little GOOD penetrating oil, tap it a few times with a hammer and wait a few hours. Put the receiver in a padded vice. Rear screw needs a big flathead screwdriver, that's all. On the front, don't be afraid of padding some vice-grips if you can't get it started (this nut has the stock mounting screw through it, so the screwdriver tends to walk out of the slot edges).


By impact screwdriver I meant the small hand ones that you hit on the end with a hammer and it jars the screw loose, kind of what you are talking about by tapping it. They come with a selection of screwdriver bits and they work quite well and don't take much of a tap with the hammer. It just breaks the seal loose between the screw and whatever it's into.
 
I would attempt the soft jaws in the vice approach.
Grab the stub and turn the action.
The impact driver was meant for motorcycle side case
cover screws, not gunsmithing.
If that doesn't work, I would find/make something flat and
wider than a screwdriver blade to lay across there and a
manipulate it with that.
 
I would attempt the soft jaws in the vice approach.
Grab the stub and turn the action.
The impact driver was meant for motorcycle side case
cover screws, not gunsmithing.
If that doesn't work, I would find/make something flat and
wider than a screwdriver blade to lay across there and a
manipulate it with that.

Actually it's meant to be used wherever it will work. 45 years ago I bought one, for as you mentioned, motorcycle case screws. The last 40 years I've used it for everything but motorcycles. If you have a bit that will fit, it sure isn't going to damage the screw like trying to turn one by hand will. One quick hit on the impact driver and I bet it's loose without even having to clamp it in a vice. 3weeks ago I bought a gun where someone had put the wrong front sight on it. I put a screwdriver to the mounting screw and right away I knew it would just bugger the screw because it was so tight. Got the impact driver and one small rap with the hammer and it was broke loose with no damage at all. I have used it on other stubborn screws on guns with no problem. Beats marring the hell out of something with vicegrips or a vice or heating or drilling. But it was just a suggestion for anyone in the future who might have the same problem.
 
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I was just trying to suggest easy, don't bust it up type suggestions.
It would take me more time to put my shoes on and walk out to the shop
than it would take for me to remove those.
He's posting on here for help.
An impact hammer in the wrong hands would ruin those.
My buddy is having to replace his clutch housing on his ATV because
he used a hammer impact.
I won't get into it, but sometimes threads aren't what they seem.


Actually it's meant to be used wherever it will work. 45 years ago I bought one, for as you mentioned, motorcycle case screws. The last 40 years I've used it for everything but motorcycles. If you have a bit that will fit, it sure isn't going to damage the screw like trying to turn one by hand will. One quick hit on the impact driver and I bet it's loose without even having to clamp it in a vice. 3weeks ago I bought a gun where someone had put the wrong front sight on it. I put a screwdriver to the mounting screw and right away I knew it would just bugger the screw because it was so tight. Got the impact driver and one small rap with the hammer and it was broke loose with no damage at all. I have used it on other stubborn screws on guns with no problem. Beats marring the hell out of something with vicegrips or a vice or heating or drilling. But it was just a suggestion for anyone in the future who might have the same problem.
 
I was just trying to suggest easy, don't bust it up type suggestions.
It would take me more time to put my shoes on and walk out to the shop
than it would take for me to remove those.
He's posting on here for help.
An impact hammer in the wrong hands would ruin those.
My buddy is having to replace his clutch housing on his ATV because
he used a hammer impact.
I won't get into it, but sometimes threads aren't what they seem.


X2 on that.

What else will work is a dewalt or makita impact driver very subtle with trigger control.Once you use one of these you will throw rocks at the hammer style impact driver.

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Take a hacksaw or a dremel with a cutoff wheel and make the slot for the screwdriver a little deeper so you can use a BIG screwdriver on it. Slot was not very deep from the original. Or use a vise grip on it, you don't see it when the rifle is assembled anyway.
 
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