Help determine value of Mauser 1935 (Pic Heavy)

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Hello,

I have been a member lurking on these forums for quite a while and now I finally have something to post about.

After doing some research online I couldn't find a whole lot of information regarding what the value of a Mauser 1935 with all matching serial numbers is. This gun was destined for Brazil and got hung up at the border, eventually the whole pallet load was auctioned off and they were sold in unissued unfired condition.

This rifle has had 23 shots through it, 3 of which were from the original factory test (The target from the factory is included with the rifle along with muzzle cover and bayonet).

I am considering buying this rifle and have no idea what to offer for it or if it is even within my price range. I have no idea if they have collector value like a WWII Mauser or if they are a rare find.

Attached are some not so hot cell phone pictures that don't really do the rifle justice, as it is in great condition and has only minor spots of wear and tear (Dent in the rear of stock and some scratching on the bottom of the magazine).

Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Thank you,
DraXX
 
Being that it's not unfired after leaving the factory (had 20 shots through it), has a dent in the stock,
and not in cosmoline, don't overpay, remember it's not NIB (New in Box) anymore.

There are many more out there in better condition if that's what you are looking for.
 
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A fair price for a shooter grade South American is somewhere around $350-$450 [Add $100 for Argentine ;) ]

Add the bayonet + $60 - $80, if the bayonet matches the gun [I don't know if they were numbered] $100[easy]

Being in that nice condition WITH original sling, + $150 - $200 [the test paper and muzzle cover is a nice touch]

That one looks like tool compression, but if it's strong tiger striping, +$100

so $700-$800 would be a very fair price [in my mind] $800-$1000, would be my upper limit, anything over $1000 I think would be over paying.

I would offer the guy starting at $500 and see where it goes from there, if you can haggle it out of him for around $7/800 you've done well.

As JBMauser said "Not overly rare but still a nice collectible piece." ~ you can find them in this good condition if you look, if you are on the fence; buy it, they are wonderful rifles, accurate, fun and will make lots of friends at the range.


Now down to brass tacks.

Where exactly is this gun? Are there more kicking about, I specifically read "a whole pallet" ... if you decide to pass on it would you be so kind as to forward on the contact info to me?

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-sean
 
This is one of the nicer Mauser rifles, as Jb Mauser said not very rare, but extremely well made and accurate.

Value: $1000, if you pay less you got a deal.
 
I have one of these, and if someone offered me a starting bid of $500 I'd basically tell them to F-off. I'd open with $700 cash in hand and hope to get a sweet deal at $900. It's a nice piece despite the dent and in my opinion the Brazilian 1935 is second to no other Mauser 98 action in terms of build quality and finish. It's hard to believe these rifles were built as battle implements. True, they are not extremely rare, but in my opinion their value can only go up in the long term.
 
tplumtree said:
I have one of these, and if someone offered me a starting bid of $500 I'd basically tell them to F-off. I'd open with $700 cash in hand and hope to get a sweet deal at $900. It's a nice piece despite the dent and in my opinion the Brazilian 1935 is second to no other Mauser 98 action in terms of build quality and finish. It's hard to believe these rifles were built as battle implements. True, they are not extremely rare, but in my opinion their value can only go up in the long term.
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+1 Nice Mauser, I agree with 700$ cash in hand to start off and go from there. As far as 98 action builds, the only rifle comparing in quality to this is a Persian Mauser aka brno vz24.
 
"This gun was destined for Brazil and got hung up at the border, eventually the whole pallet load was auctioned off and they were sold in unissued unfired condition."

I think the story of their origin is different than that and it was a whole lot more than a pallet load.

SIR in Winnipeg had them listed in their catalogue in the 1970s.

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In the 1920's and 1930's the Brazilian armed forces were looking to supplement their supplies or small arms with new rifles. Considerable qualntities of model 1922 Carbines had been procured for the cavalry and artillery from Fabrique National in Belgium (c. 1922-1924). The democratic Brazilian government was overthrown in 1930 by Governor Getulio Vargas who proclaimed "O Estado Novo", modelled after the Fascist government of Mussolini's Italy (though this government sided with the Allies in WW2 and democracy was restored in 1945). The revolutionary period also saw the order of approximately 15,000 VZ24 short rifles from Czechoslovakia, but the bulk of the armed forces was still drawing upon stocks of Model 1908 long rifles supplied by DWM and Mauser before the First World War. Mauser, which at the time was secretly building production capacity for Hitler's Third Reich offered to fill a contract to supply Brazil with the new Mauser Modelo 1935 long rifle. It became, alongside the Modelo 1908, the standard infantry rifle for the Brazilian Army in 1935. The rifles were produced in both long (49.25" OAL) and short (42.0" OAL) lengths by Mauser-Werke A.G. Oberndorf A/N.

The Modelo 1935 is, in most respects, identical to the Modelo 1908 already in service - which in turn is very similar to the Gewehr 1898 of the First World War, the main difference being that the German Lange-Vizier sights were substituted for the same tangent sights utilized on the Modelo 1908. There are some very minor dimensional differences between the M1935 and the M1908. The M1935's barrel is 0.5" shorter and the overall length is slightly longer. The Modelo 1935 is also fitted with grasping grooves on the forearm while the M1908 is not and it makes use of a much wider barrel band. Essentially, however, they are the same basic rifle which offered an advantage to the Brazilian military as a new training program for the rifle would not be needed.

Interestingly, many of the Modelo 1935 rifles saw very little use, quite a few remained unissued when they were surplused. The same can be said of the Modelo 1908 rifles. The worst of both rifles were later rebuilt into M954 .30-06 Mausers at Brazil's Itajuba Arsenal in the 1950's, so truely abused examples are not very common on the surplus market.
 
samsplacci71 said:
+1 Nice Mauser, I agree with 700$ cash in hand to start off and go from there. As far as 98 action builds, the only rifle comparing in quality to this is a Persian Mauser aka brno vz24.
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Actually if you look at pristine examples of many Mausers that weren't built during war conditions you'll find they are really works of art. Peruvian 1909's, Argentine 1909's, Banner's, Prewar K98k's, Brazilian 1908's, etc. The level of craftsmanship and quality is truly spectacular.
 
ok, I think that one is just gorgeous. the cresting and other metal markings are SOOO crisp and sharp. the wood is gorgeous, the metal bluing is awesome.

if it had a bent bolt, that would just be glorious.

oh. its missing the sight hood?
 
Most of the SAs did not have sight hoods [The Brazilians included]


JR Hartman said:
ok, I think that one is just gorgeous. the cresting and other metal markings are SOOO crisp and sharp. the wood is gorgeous, the metal bluing is awesome.

if it had a bent bolt, that would just be glorious.

oh. its missing the sight hood?
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"The provenance of this rifle is: It was obtained by an individual who had contacts with South America. This individual obtained 18-19 of the rifles still in the crate."

That gunbroker ad is funny.

There's always some kind of "special" contact or deal in the origin of these rifles it seems when the fact is the Brazilian government sat on them unused and eventually surplussed them out to dealers.

They are nice, no denying that.
 
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