Bolt action low price vs. high price rifles?

My biased take is that a FN Win 70 in FW is they best of all worlds bar none if I had to have a single rifle. There isn't really such a thing as a rifle ideal for both range and hunting. When I take mine to the range I'm just careful to let the barrel cool between shots. My shooting experience is quality not quantity with centerfire.

It feels like an awesome rifle. The wood is great. The accuracy is there. Crisp trigger and CRF action. All for under $700 + taxes.
 
The CZ is old world craftsmanship for the price of a somewhat molded tikka... The details are very well done, and they are a pleasure to shoot. Hold one side by side with a few of the others... You'll see what I mean. The bolt at first can be a bit rough, but it's nothing that cycling it 250 times won't fix...

the magazine floor or door for the last cz i have seen was made of plastic ... they re cutting too ... Zastava are full of metal steel and wood up to now at least ....
 
Without any question they are the best for the money available today. Spend an equal amount on a good scope, and go to the range for less than $800.

I have bought them in every caliber except 308 Win, and they all have a great trigger, and shoot better than any of my Remingtons.

Ted

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why do we sold the 270 lol ....
 
the magazine floor or door for the last cz i have seen was made of plastic ... they re cutting too ... Zastava are full of metal steel and wood up to now at least ....

The follower and the plate is made of plastic but the box spring is metal. You can buy replacement metal ones from CZUB. Its 769Kc (Crowns) for a metal plate. 20kc is about 1$ Canadian. Its only 19Kc for a plastic follower but 551Kc for a metal one.
 
I look at it this way. If both firearms hit the target just fine they're good enough for hunting with a cheaper gun you don't worry about scratching the stock ect. With a nice gun some people won't even go out when it might rain were a cheap gun who cares use it as it and just clean it after.

Buy it based on what you want the firearm for if it's hunting cheap or higher end is fine they both work and can get the job done if you want a target rifle get a nicer one. If you like quality craftmenship buy a nicer rifle.
 
Am I the only one that thinks accuracy is just one part of what makes a decent rifle? It seems so many people, at least here on CGN, think only of accuracy in a rifle and couldn't care less about anything else. Personally, I like fit, handling, action smoothness and reliable feeding, balance, finish, looks, etc....
 
Am I the only one that thinks accuracy is just one part of what makes a decent rifle? It seems so many people, at least here on CGN, think only of accuracy in a rifle and couldn't care less about anything else. Personally, I like fit, handling, action smoothness and reliable feeding, balance, finish, looks, etc....

If it's not accurate then it's nothing but a wall hanger. The paint doesn't get it down the road. It is a waste of ammunition, energy and most of all time.
 
If it's not accurate then it's nothing but a wall hanger. The paint doesn't get it down the road. It is a waste of ammunition, energy and most of all time.

True, it has to be accurate, but who wants an accurate 8' 4x4 plank that is as reliable as a yugo....lol
 
True, it has to be accurate, but who wants an accurate 8' 4x4 plank that is as reliable as a yugo....lol


History shows us a couple of Yugo's one being the Moisan Nagant the other being the AK47. Neither is pretty. Pretty gets put on the wall or the back of the gun locker.
By the way I need to come over with a couple of 222 rounds to see if the heavier ones work for you.
 
remington is an interesting gun... They sometimes fire without the trigger being pulled, causing much surprise, and sometimes startling game that you'd been stalking for hours... Remington has been on a real downhill slide since they were taken over by a financial group. Now, they're all about profit over quality...
Tikka has a real following. I haven't used one myself, but I hear that they're quite good rifles. I have held one, though, and they feel ok to me.
If it was me buying, and I had it to buy my guns over again, almost everything would be CZ. The guns are in about the same price range as the Tikka, but, to me, they have a much nicer feel. I"m a mauser action lover. The cz has made some nice improvements to the action, and for the dollar, have by far the nicest stock trigger of any gun I've handled... Sometimes they have to be adjusted, but they're really nice... The Lux and full stock is better if you like iron sights, and the american is better if you like scopes.

So have you seen this happen?
I own three Remington rifles (788s and a 700 Varmint) and I've yet to experience this legendary safety issue, even once!
You post reeks of internet rumour and untruthful statements. After all, all of those poor US Army and USMC snipers dragging all those dangerous M40A3 & M24 rifles hither and yon worldwide. They should have called you first off for advice. :rolleyes:
 
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Always a great topic when someone wants to start shooting and hunting. If your just starting out, the ideal situation is to start out with a caliber that does not feel like it's got too much recoil/kick. Everybody loves a 22 and that's where one can get rea lcomfortable with shooting; and it's cheap. Even a 308 to a new shooter might feel like it has stiff kick. A 30-06 will definitely feel a tad more stout in the recoil department. Another option might be a 223 or a 243. Either one can drop varmints and white tail deer. I would suggest a bit of humility in your first purchase. Look at the price and availabilty of ammo because it can be costly. AS far a brands go... There is nothing wrong with looking at used rifles. If your a bit uncomfortable with assessing the merits of a used rifle, ask someone who knows a bit about guns that could point you in the right direction. As far a new goes, your price range could mean starting with a Savage. They are not the prettiest rifles out there but they do shoot well and there prices are reasonable. One of Savage's better rifles is the Weather Warrior series. You get a few nice options with them, and the price is reasonable. Get a good set of scope rings, and a decent scope. Burris makes a decent scope for the price, and with Bushnell I would suggest that their better products start at the 3200 series or the Elite series. Do not cheap out on an inexpensive scope as you will likely be replacing it far sooner then need be. 3x9x40 is all you need. I like a lot of different brands for different reasons and have shot most brands. Take your time and look around and you may surprise yourself with something new to you at a reasonable cost.
 
OT: As always delta1, was a pleasure having coffee, and thanks for the goodies!!!

ON Topic: Highwinds post makes a lot of sense, I would recommend a good used setup, you can pretty much guarantee your many back, all of it, if you decide to sell it later.
 
why they didnt left what was working if it s only few bucks ?????

They didn't want to jack the price up by $80 so they figured sacrificing the floor plate and follower would't be a big deal to help keep there current price going for awhile longer. To a lot of people, it is a big deal; yet a lot of people love glocks. If it is a big deal, then you can go and spend the extra $80 they would of jacked the price up and get the metal follower and plate if you want it that badly. At least CZ gives you that option.
 
OT: As always delta1, was a pleasure having coffee, and thanks for the goodies!!!

ON Topic: Highwinds post makes a lot of sense, I would recommend a good used setup, you can pretty much guarantee your many back, all of it, if you decide to sell it later.

Not a problem and who can beat a cup of java, good conversation and being in the gunroom to boot.

Back on topic. Buy a rifle you are going to be happy starting off with. Don't buy something with to heavy a recoil to start that will just generate more problems if the recoil cannot be handled properly. Buying on the cheap for the rifle is not a bad thing if you are going to be happy with how it preforms. Buy a decent scope that fits with what you want it to do. Scope upgrades get to be very expensive, buying a decent one to start will save in the long run.
 
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