Advice : Gore-tex hunting boot that doesn't leak?

The thing about Gore-Tex is that it's a small portion of what goes into making a boot. Generally speaking, if you have a well constructed boot and you look after them by caring for the leather, drying them out if they do get wet, you shouldn't have a problem. A lot of guys treat their equipment like crap and then blame it when it starts to fail. Having Gore-Tex in the boot does not a good quality boot make. If the boot is of an inferior design, made with inferior materials or both, it is likely to fail in short order. Buy a boot that is made with top quality leather, an excellent sole, has been stitched/welded properly and you are likely to experience years of proper usage. Treat the leather so that it does not absorb water like a sponge, and make sure you dry the boot out quickly whenever it gets wet.

I have had excellent experience with Meindls, Danners and some Irish Setters, that being said Meindls are my favourite. Not cheap, but neither is replacing your boots every year or two.

Cheers

Patrick
 
All goretex boots will eventually leak but some last longer. I have a pair of Elk trackers that are 5 years old and have been hunted in swamps for elk and marshes for pheasant and are still dry but I suspect this will be the last year as they are showing some wear.

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I've had a pair of Elk Trackers for 4 years now and like you they have been through some really wet hunts and I've never had a single drop of water in them. The sole is great, tons of grip. Ankle support is excellent. The gourmets are SOLID and you can tug on the laces as much as you want too and they won't snap.

To the OP - these are the boots we're talking about - Well worth the investment.

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Over the course of 15 years of work and duty, Danners are at the top of my list.
Flexing is probably the biggest enemy of Gore-Tex. The stiff sole helps. Danner Black Boot dressing is all that has be used. All that have been retired to yard and range duty are undoubtedly being neglected.
One pair of Danners was at 6.5 years before a leak was noticed while walking through wet alfalfa. Danners are available for narrow and ultra wide feet. Proper sizing reduces flexing. Once discovering the Acadian in "B" width, "D" widths were abandoned to yard work.
Meindels were okay for duty but not for hunting. The sizing is controlled with a sole liner which is not the best. The Meindel boot dressing was used and I think they are still dry.
Irish Setters are over 20 years old and there is too much give in them with the insulation and Gore-Tex but I treated the leather differently using SnoSeal.
Even "Robber Boots" leak eventually and water still runs over the tops.
 
I have had a set of Rocky Goretex boots for years and they still keep my feet dry to the top of the boot.
I had to help a heifer/pull a calf in pouring rain one year and I was soaked to the skin over every inch of my body, except from the knees down inside my boots.
Another bonus is they are the lightest boots I own.
The only thing I have ever done to them is knock the mud off once it dried.
Outstanding boots in my experience.
 
Get leather trekking or backpacking boots with a goretex liner. Then treat the leather with nikwax or similar every month at least.
I use leather trekking boots without Goretex. A treatment with nikwax every couple of weeks keeps me dry in the Newfoundland bog.
 
I have had 2 pairs of Han Wag Alaska GTX's and never had a problem with them leaking. Gore Tex liner with Nik Wax Aqueous on top. And I have put a ton of miles on mine. They don't cost $179 though.

J
 
Meindl boots are the best foot wear my feet have seen. I've owned two pairs and one pair of hanwags, the meindl are way better boots.

Buy once and cry once get a pair of meindl boots and be happy you did.

What these two said....

Before I went back to school I sold these boots.. I still have my pair. make sure its a full leather exterior, make sure you get a pair fitted properly to your foot and take care of them (this means in camp at the end of the day as well). Treat them well and they will treat you well. You probably won't ever have to buy another pair.. EXPENSIVE, but worth ever penny.
 
I recently picked up at bass pro a pair of lacrosse hunting boots, they are just awesome. Had to go to the usa to find them, and wayy better selection there too.
 
No matter what you get, proper care will keep it water proof. This means keeping the clean after use and treating with the right kind of waterproofing agent from time to time.
 
What these two said....

Before I went back to school I sold these boots.. I still have my pair. make sure its a full leather exterior, make sure you get a pair fitted properly to your foot and take care of them (this means in camp at the end of the day as well). Treat them well and they will treat you well. You probably won't ever have to buy another pair.. EXPENSIVE, but worth ever penny.

Meindle has likely the worst customer service and warranty you will ever experience and while they made a good boot once, the stuff that now finds it's way into the North American market is definitely sub par. I used to love them and had four pair over the years....never again! I go through a pair of boots every two years...I've tried pretty well all of them.
 
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Anyone I know who use to use Miendle boots... use to.

I like it for shells, etc. but as for Goretex in footwear, not for me thanks.

Most of my friends and acquaintances are big users of Hanwag or Lowa, with a few Asolos and Zamberlains mixed in. The Hanwags are by far the most popular here though and one of the best made boots I've used. None of us have figured out how to get 5 years out of a pair of boots either, so we've tried a few... :)

Brands and Goretex VS Leather-lined can be argued around and around, but really, FIT trumps all, IMO/E.
 
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Over the years I have owned and used many gore-tex products. From gloves to coats, pants, and boots. They "all" without fail start "leaking" at some point, some items new right out of the box. Calling gore-tex gets you polite sympathy, but thats it. Calling the manufacturer/retailer gets you more of the same except Cabelas, they will give you a refund.

Most folks don't realize there are different levels of gore-tex protection. The most well constructed being the most waterproof, is also the least breathable. So if your sweating alot your going to have an issue from the inside. What they also don't tell you is water can be forced through gore-tex at and above 70 Ibs. per square inch. So items like boots (toes and soles), gloves (palms), pants (knees and seat), socks, coat (shoulders and back area). All this I noticed from my own experiences. During a phone conversation with gore-tex they openly confirmed that yes these areas could leak when pressure in these areas reach 70 Ibs per square in.

Gore-tex and like membranes are good for blocking out wind and the majority of the wet your going to encounter. But unless your buying super high quality items it is not going to be 100% waterproof, and at this level the breathability of the fabric is going to be very limited.
In my experiences clothing manufactured for hunters is not as high a quality as that made for mountaineering and exploration. Skiing wear quality is all over the map due to the fashion style component. Hunting clothing is getting better in some brands, but expect to pay premium dollars, and try not to be to disappointed when at some point it does leak when your walking through tall wet grass, or sit for little rest on an old wet stump, then when you get up you notice your knees and or butt are cold and clammy and your underwear is stuck to the cheek of you butt because it is wet.

There is definitely something to be said for heavy wool mackinaw wool pants and coats, and I have worn alot wool pants over the years. They will keep you warm after getting wet. Trouble is there hard to find, usually old army surplus, and the newer stuff is pricy. A trip to Walmart will get you some sort gore-tex type hunting pant for 39.95 you can throw out after the seasons over or the next and not feel to bad. At present I wear a suit of 'Rivers West" pants and coat. Water proof but it does "NOT" breathe. And a cheaper Wally Walmart outfit.

Been there, done that, and got a whole big closet full of gore-tex products. Why do I keep buying it? because for all its faults it's still a whole lot better than plain standard clothing. As for just boots, I wear rubber boots with felt liners and or, or uninsulated rubber boots, as my area of hunting usually puts me in and around alot of water. Gore-tex boots to me are a waste a money as any I ever had leaked, a great boot for going shopping where you mighht walk through the odd puddle in the parking lot. I also like LL.Beans hunting shoe. Basically leather top of various heights with a rubber bottom shoe sewn on. Have about 4 pairs of them and really like them. Unless your standing in water they work well.
 
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do not dry goretex boots by a fire or woodstove, as high heat can melt/shrink the membrane. best way is crumbled newspaper if available
 
Meindle has likely the worst customer service and warranty you will ever experience and while they made a good boot once, the stuff that now finds it's way into the North American market is definitely sub par. I used to love them and had four pair over the years....never again! I go through a pair of boots every two years...I've tried pretty well all of them.


Like I said it was a while ago, however even then the customer service was the s&*!$, but the boots were good then. Probably a victim of mass production. Doesn't change that I love my boots.

Sorry been out of the industry for about a decade now.
 
do not dry goretex boots by a fire or woodstove, as high heat can melt/shrink the membrane. best way is crumbled newspaper if available

High heat is bad for Goretex and can be for any shoe. However, dryer heat is good for Goretex (not that you would put your boots in the dryer).

J
 
High heat is bad for Goretex and can be for any shoe. However, dryer heat is good for Goretex (not that you would put your boots in the dryer).

J

That's one of the issues with Gore-Tex in boots. Gore-Tex by nature is waterproof but it loses that quality when it becomes dirty. With a jacket or pants, no problem...pop them in the washing machine occasionally and then in a hot dryer and you are good to go but it's virtually impossible to clean in boots. I still prefer Gore-Tex lined boots vs leather lined just because they breath better and require less maintenance. I go through boots so fast that I don't have leakage problems but I can see it for those who don't wear out a pair of boots every couple years. I choose rubber boots personally for hunting in wet conditions other than for trips to the mountains and then it's Gore-Tex lined leather boots.
 
That's one of the issues with Gore-Tex in boots. Gore-Tex by nature is waterproof but it loses that quality when it becomes dirty. With a jacket or pants, no problem...pop them in the washing machine occasionally and then in a hot dryer and you are good to go but it's virtually impossible to clean in boots. I still prefer Gore-Tex lined boots vs leather lined just because they breath better and require less maintenance. I go through boots so fast that I don't have leakage problems but I can see it for those who don't wear out a pair of boots every couple years. I choose rubber boots personally for hunting in wet conditions other than for trips to the mountains and then it's Gore-Tex lined leather boots.

Actually it is the breathability that is lost in Gore Tex without heat or keeping it clean. The pores close up, heat opens them :)

The thing about Gore Tex is it has a specific use. Most people buy Gore Tex thinking it is the ultimate in water proofing and don't understand what its' intended use is. If you need breathability (high aerobic activity) in a condition where wet is going to make you cold - then Gore is the way to go. It helps keeps you dry from the rain as well as "assisting" with getting your sweat away from your body - keeping you warmer. Moisture in cool weather means cold.

If you don't maintain the outer shell water resistance on a Gore Tex jacket (with a DWR or similar coating), then the jacket will just wet out and you may as well be wearing a $20 rubber suit instead of a $600 Pro Shell. Ironically, DWR is very fragile and will wear off easily. It must be maintained properly if you want Gore Tex to do what it was intended to do.

If you are just tramping through the woods on a day hunt you don't need a $600 jacket made with ProShell IMHO. My wife and I have Arcteryx Pro Shell jackets. We don't wear them every time we are out and about in the rain. We use them for backpacking because if we get wet on day one and things don't dry out, it makes for a very cold and damp trip.

Neo Shell also sounds interesting and cheaper than Gore.

J
 
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Actually it is the breathability that is lost in Gore Tex without heat or keeping it clean. The pores close up, heat opens them :)

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J

You are partially right...the drying does help maintain breathability but it's the dirt that causes leakage. If you heat dry dirty Gore-Tex it still leaks. Run it through the washing machine and viola...it's waterproof again. Keeping Gore-Tex clean is very important.
 
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