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So, I'm enjoying my new Norc 1911A1, and decide to get some new grips to dress it up a bit. They arrive, and.... one of the grip screw bushings is frozen into the frame... thereby not letting me get the grip screw/bushing/grip separated.

No worries, let's order some new grip screws and grip screw bushings, dress it up a bit more, and make a simple replacement. Throw in a few extra parts from Brownells as well (new ambi safety since the factory one works but is sloppy as all get out on the right side), new trigger and such. They arrived today.

Go to replace the bushings, one is frozen in and will likely require heat/pliers to remove. However, good thing I didn't go too far as the threads are different! The Norc threads are coarse, the nice EGW ones from Brownells, fine.

Will a standard set of oversize grip bushings let me drill out/retap the holes in the frame, then install the new ones? A little help?
 
The norc threads are metric. you have to order the Brownells oversize replacement bushings for damaged threads, and the tap that goes with them. Then you add some oil and carefully tap right thru the existing norc holes, the oversized tap cuts the existing thread out and puts in the oversize one to fit the bushings. Then you degrease with acetone or alchol, add a bit of red locktite and screw them in. Better not to try restaking them into the norc frame. You will have to use pliers/some heat to get out the norc bushings...if three came out without it your really lucky. I've done this with two and had no issues.
 
Will a standard set of oversize grip bushings let me drill out/retap the holes in the frame, then install the new ones? A little help?
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If you don't mind shopping on Ebay then there is at least one seller who sell a kit
which consists of 4 oversize grip screw bushings and a tap.
Send a message and they will ship to Canada.
 
I feel your pain! I ordered "slim" grip bushings from Brownells along with some thin grips, and I managed to get all 4 grip bushings off mine before I realized that they were threaded differently!
I don't have the nerve to try and tap the holes out myself for the oversize bushings, so I'll keep the "stock" Norinco bushings. It means that I can't use my "thin" grips, though, as they're too loose and rattle around with the standard thickness bushings.
I have seen some people grind down the bushings to make them thinner, for use with thin grips, but I'm nervous to do that as well. I guess I'm stuck with regular grips for now....
 
Why not keep the Nork bushings? You don't see them anyway, and the grip screws are threaded the same as US and can be replaced.
 
Cocked&Locked said:
Then you degrease with acetone or alchol, add a bit of red locktite and screw them in.
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I would not use red Loctite, as it is designed to be essentially permanent. You need to heat it to over 400 degrees to break the bond, so the next person who wants to change the grips will have to take a torch to the screw to get it out. Instead use #222 (purple). It's designed for screws under 1/4" diameter so it will hold, but you can get the screw out in the future without breaking it off or stripping out the head.
 
Standard grips will fit may require light filing to clear the bushing

I just spiced up my norc today lol very little fittings required

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trav70 said:
I feel your pain! I ordered "slim" grip bushings from Brownells along with some thin grips, and I managed to get all 4 grip bushings off mine before I realized that they were threaded differently!
I don't have the nerve to try and tap the holes out myself for the oversize bushings, so I'll keep the "stock" Norinco bushings. It means that I can't use my "thin" grips, though, as they're too loose and rattle around with the standard thickness bushings.
I have seen some people grind down the bushings to make them thinner, for use with thin grips, but I'm nervous to do that as well. I guess I'm stuck with regular grips for now....
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Go to any hardware store lowes, Home Depot ect and buy two 1/4" rubber grommets and cut them in half these will stop the rattle and allow the use of over sized bushing holes on standard bushing

You can even use some hard orings

If you can't find them pm me ill mail you a set
 
Catman Do said:
I would not use red Loctite, as it is designed to be essentially permanent. You need to heat it to over 400 degrees to break the bond, so the next person who wants to change the grips will have to take a torch to the screw to get it out. Instead use #222 (purple). It's designed for screws under 1/4" diameter so it will hold, but you can get the screw out in the future without breaking it off or stripping out the head.
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And i use red because i don't want them to come loose, and i own a torch. I've had purple let things come loose almost every time i've used it in 20 years as a millwright. Your results may vary, but that's why i don't recomend it for something like a bushing that will in all probability be a permanent installation.
 
Catman Do said:
I would not use red Loctite, as it is designed to be essentially permanent. You need to heat it to over 400 degrees to break the bond, so the next person who wants to change the grips will have to take a torch to the screw to get it out. Instead use #222 (purple). It's designed for screws under 1/4" diameter so it will hold, but you can get the screw out in the future without breaking it off or stripping out the head.
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The Loctite just goes on the bushing - NOT on the screw.

John
 
I would use the stock bushings, but in case it didn't get mentioned in my OP, one of them has the grip screw frozen in it- I can't see how to get the screw out of the bushing without destroying it. Figured new bushing would be the easier, cleaner way to solve the problem and leave the stock bushings with the stock grips.
 
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