Why is everybody selling their S&W M&P's after only a few hundred rounds?

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It seems to me that there are a lot of "new" M&P's on the equipment exchange. I'm simply curious as to why. I have been thinking about buying one of the range kits they sell, but when I see everybody trying to sell them off almost immediately, it sure gives me cause for concern. thanks for any input you might have.
 
Cuz ya get what ya pay for? I dunno. I doubt it, seem fine to me. I shot my friends and didn't mind it. I wouldnt buy one but I didn't mind it.

Maybe people buy them because they are a good deal and then decide that they need the $$$$ more.
 
I'm happy with, and keeping mine. I see merit in the design and some aspects I prefer over other brands. There's always the factor of guns that sell in higher volume initially, just seem to appear more in the EE. I don't see many high end Tangfolio's in the EE. I'd say its because there are less sold initially and the purchase is likely more well thought through.
 
I owned an m&p which I bought used on CGN and resold here, it was my first handgun and while it was a good starting pistol, I just found it wasn't the right gun for me, particularly because I wasn't very accurate with it.. My reasoning is that because the frame is polymer, when the slide comes back, all the weight of the gun shifts back as well, creating more recoil and a less accurate shot.. Again this is just my opinion but after I sold it I bought the all metal framed CZ SP-01 shadow and I shoot very accurately with it
 
Odds are it's just a case of buyers regret.

The M&P is a decent gun, but like anything, try before you buy.
 
I've put ~5k through my M&P since I got it. No regrets, and it's a fun one to shoot.

I'd imagine it's buyers regret more than anything.
 
I bought mine as my first gun and have probably put 1000-1500 rounds through it, I like it, its a great gun in my opinion, and although I'm not the best shot with it, I blame that more on ME than anything. I have added the full APEX Forward set sear and trigger kit and it made the gun much nicer in the trigger for sure. I added the hybrid hogue grips and love how they feel, I'll be keeping mine, no reason to sell guns, only reasons to buy more guns LOL.
 
As mentioned above, definitely try to "test drive" any gun before you buy it. I personally love M&Ps (along with Glock, my fave pistol in 9mm) and I don't feel like there is a disproportionately high number of them on sale compared to other brands if you factor in overall numbers.
 
There's a lot of 'only a hundred rounds or so' guns out there. Some guys need a constant stream of new guns running through their safe, others buy and find out a particular gun isn't quite for them. They are pretty popular right now, meaning there are large numbers of them floating around out there too. Personally, I love my M&P and will probably have it for quite some time.
 
kennymo said:
There's a lot of 'only a hundred rounds or so' guns out there. Some guys need a constant stream of new guns running through their safe, others buy and find out a particular gun isn't quite for them. They are pretty popular right now, meaning there are large numbers of them floating around out there too. Personally, I love my M&P and will probably have it for quite some time.
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Love my MP9, so much, that I have an MP45 en route.
 
They are very popular for sure, the best deal you can get out there rigth now in the pistol market is the mp9/40 FS kit range or the g17. I love both, and held/shot both.

All polymer frames are in ball park of $500, that means, that a polymer gun made in Germany costs more here due to the cost of importing & availability (offer/demand) and not due to the inherent value of the gun.
Glocks, Mps, PPQ, CZs, all great designs, all have different benefits. Try one, if you don't like it put it back. There is a lot of people buying mps now because #1, its a great deal, #2 are made in the states bla bla bla.
If I could put my hands on a walther ppq I would buy one in a heart beat, which until the end of 2012 was being imported by SW (not anymore, so you might wonder why).
I love the glock 17 and I love the mp9 too, particularly the grip, and the grip angle. I can shoot the g17 very accurately, but it doesnt point naturally (to me), the mp does that, Which one I like best, do not know yet. Most likely will own both shortly... So it all comes down to how it feels rights to YOU, and which one you enjoy shooting more.

Another thing to consider:
There was a lot of internet noise about the mps accuracy, if you look closer you will see that this is the same people talking, literally the same dudes talking in 3 or 4 forums at once, this is food for a google search, then, the magic begins when you put the words mp9 and acurracy in a google search bar, all BS. Lots of people complaining about how barrel twist is making a difference because it is not a 1/10 twist , and they go ON and ON about it (you can see NUTNFANCY and HIKOK45 shooting 1st generations MPS very accurately), so there is that for the accuracy BS and the fact that LOTS of police departments adopted the mps in it's early days with poor trigger reset.

Shortly after the accuracy problems being in online forums you see local gunsmiths joining the conversation claiming they have the solution, A NEW BARREL which is, of course, offered by them. There is no proven data with videos or anything about the accuracy being POOR, and then BEING corrected by a new BARREL. Make your own conclusions on that one.

SW has changed the twist of the barrel to the 1/10 recently. Make your own conclusions on that.

All videos and all reviews online are with the older barrel. Make your own conclusions on that.

You will also find information about the mp tirgger being updated with APEX parts (apex tactical and a google search will bring the site).
MPs triggers have been upgraded along the way and these parts are no longer needed. This is true if you buy a MP9 or 40 that DOES NOT say stainless on the slide.
For a real review, I would go to the good sources and people who know how to shoot well due to experience with other guns and absolute control of pistol shooting fundamentals, and not a newbie who just got his RPAL, for me, that is online on youtube, then I go to the range and compare, then I compare those shooters shooting other guns, then I don't see any problems in gun designs, just bad shooters...

Check out Nutnfancy review about the mp9, then check Hikok45, reviewing the 40c, the 9 PRO. BOTH OF THEM LIKED IT and they both are HARDCORE glock fans, and both of them can shoot anything in any caliber, so there is that.
I would go with the advice from those guys instead from someone who has only 1 gun, most likely it's biased, and knows how to shoot that one only because it's his pet gun.
My 2 cents.

Nutnfancy shooting a first gen, mp9, before the trigger was changed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAgRihaXDh4

Hickok45 shooting the 40C (with a broken slide!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLFAt63aNbY

and the same guy shooting the 9PRO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp45sjBz-CA

Another reviewer, unknown to me, with a little biased review, but seems knowledgable (comparing g17 and mp9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roOgtVcDNTo
 
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I think it's a volume thing. The M&P range kits are a great deal and are extremely popular with new shooters so there are tons of them out there. If there is 1000 M&P owners versus 10 Tanfoglio owners you would expect to see more for sale.

I also think that as a new shooter gains experience they will eventually want to try something different. Having a safe full of guns is not an option for some of us so the first purchase is sold to fund the next one.
 
sciberras89 said:
My reasoning is that because the frame is polymer, when the slide comes back, all the weight of the gun shifts back as well, creating more recoil and a less accurate shot.. Again this is just my opinion but after I sold it I bought the all metal framed CZ SP-01 shadow and I shoot very accurately with it
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While the pistol is recoiling the bullet already left the barrel, so accuracy has nothing to do with the recoil process.
Anticipation of the recoil may be your problem though.
Lot of people are pushing gun forward just a moment before pulling the trigger in so called "anticipation" of recoil.
Such movement will affect the bullet placement on the target.
With heavier gun there is less recoil, so You are not trying to prevent the gun from jumping in your hand as much and are more accurate on target.
It's all in your mind, not in the pistol.
Enjoy your CZ - very good choice.
 
Partially because light polymer guns don't stroke your ego. If you suck at shooting they will display that for you immediately. Most people don't have the patience to improve their form. So after a few rounds they become pissy that their pistol is "being" inaccurate, when it's the user screwing up and the pistol demonstrating it. So they get mad put it up for sale and buy something else.
 
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partially because light polymer guns don't stroke your ego. If you suck at shooting they will display that for you immediately. Most people don't have the patience to improve their form. So after a few rounds they become pissy that their pistol is "being" inaccurate, when it's the user screwing up and the pistol demonstrating it. So they get mad put it up for sale and buy something else.
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I would have "seller's remorse" if I ever got rid of my M&P 9. I love it.
I am more accurate with my 1911, but I feel that my M&P will make me a more accurate shot the more I shoot it.
I say buy one and see for yourself.
 
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