Anyone shot the Zastava commercial grade M98 (M70)
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It's a commercial mauser 98. Fully adjustable trigger from the factory. My 375 H&H is stupidly accurate(0.5-0.75"). My 6.5x55 has been a bastard to get shooting but I think I have that sorted out with fore end pressure as it's a thin barrel profile but need to make it to the range again to confirm and carry on load development(lacking time/money/components). They are well built with nice bluing and pretty decent wood most of the time. They are a bit rough in the action but wear in nicely or else you can polish them up with a dremel or 600 grit sandpaper. Overall I think that they are well priced and you get a lot of rifle for the money.
Remington also imported and sold them as their 798. You can find some more information searching that as well.
Remington also imported and sold them as their 798. You can find some more information searching that as well.
im using Weaver lever lock rings and bases 20a and 55.
cant complain on the accuracy on my 9,3 and 270 if im doing my part.
they re just steel and wood so a little on the heavy side and you need long arm with the LOP.
very good rifle for the money and as a lefty wont complain that they re made for us too ...
enjoy them.
cant complain on the accuracy on my 9,3 and 270 if im doing my part.
they re just steel and wood so a little on the heavy side and you need long arm with the LOP.
very good rifle for the money and as a lefty wont complain that they re made for us too ...
enjoy them.
After missing a close shot (60 yards) at a black bear in the last hours of our spring hunting season, I started to question the wisdom of using heavy rifle. Mine is Husky 9.3x62, 9 lbs 6 ounces with scope. Of course I myself am guilty for the miss. But the 10 lbs rod is too heavy when you don't have a support to stabilize it. If I am buying a new M98 rifle, it has to be light, light, light.
BigUglyMan
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Wow, that seems heavy. My Husky weight 7lb 11oz with a full magazine and a sling. True it has no scope, but even figuring another pound for a scope like the Burris Fullfield 2-7x and rings and bases that doesn't get as heavy as your rig. If anything, a heavier rifle should steady you offhand and make shots easier. That said, you were there, not me. Bummer about the bear.
I'm not sure how much fun a 7lb all up 9.3x62 would be (for example, a T3 Lite with the above noted Burris scope, though I'd use a 1.5-5x Leupold if it were me). 25% more recoil (39ft-lbs) moving 25% faster (19 FPS) would be pretty sporty for a lot of people.
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whitetailwoodsarcher
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how heavy in you rifle in 375 H&H? Im interested in getting a 375 h&h rifle some day.
My 300 win mag zastava is 10.2 pounds. Went with weaver 45 and I think 46a bases. Heavy and first few shots are on then the barrel heats up. Had to free float the barrel. Purchased it for 599 plus and shipping so can not complain. I mostly bow hunt so was not looking to spend over 1000 all in with scope and rings.
Honestly?...no idea. Just tried to weigh it for you on the bathroom scale but the piece of #### won't weigh anything under 50lbs or something. Stupid digital garbage. Either way Their website lists it at 3.9kg or 8.6lbs. Toss some Leupold QWR rings and a bushnell elite 2-7x on it and that's what I'm shooting(and a grind to fit limbsaver...the old factory pads made steel look soft..new ones are far better). I would recommend something with longer eye relief for most people though....I'm not exactly small so things don't affect me as much as they would others so the eye relief doesn't bother me.
I have a Zastava Mini Mauser Mark X. I had a Mark X in 30-06 as well. Older made rifles, long before the civil war broke out.
Both have, IMHO, a better finish than the later offerings.
Both shoot as well as I can hold them.
The 30-06 was sold off to a friend that fell in love with it on an Elk hunt. He is tall and long in the arms, with a long neck. He is also a stock crawler. He almost looks like he's laying down on the stock when he is aiming the rifle.
The only issue I had with the 30-06, is the low comb. It made getting a decent sight picture with a scope very difficult. The stock itself was Black Walnut and very well checkered.
The Mini Mauser, is chambered in 7.62x39. It was made several years later than the 06 and the stock is some sort of straight grained, rather soft, hardwood.
Unlike the 06, which was very accurate right out of the box, the Mini Mauser grouped like a shotgun.
The stock was the reason of course but at the time, there were other matters that were more pressing and the little rifle was relegated to the safe. I should have slugged the bore.
A few years later, my stepson needed a starter rifle to learn on, that had more recoil and noise than a 223rem.
We made a project of getting it to shoot reasonably tight groups, so that he could hunt with it. After some judicious barrel channel scraping and a glass bed poured, the rifle was ready for refinishing to something other than matte poop brown. We applied Lin-Speed until there was a nice sheen to the stock, without glare. Then, we re-cut the checkering, which left a lot to be desired.
The rifle proved to have a .310 diameter bore. I guess I should have slugged it when I first shot it.
It started shooting the 125 grain Speer FBSP bullets into minus 2in groups at 100ys consistently and improved a bit when we increased the powder charge to near maximum. Now, it is a regular 1 1/2in shooter. Perfectly adequate for the ranges and capabilities of the cartridge.
My grandson is going to go out with his dad and get his first deer with that rifle next season.
Now, the earlier rifle, was very well finished, above and below the stock line.
The later rifle is a completely different story. The metal is well finished above the stock but below, the story changes. The trigger adjustment screws and locking nuts look like they were made by inexperienced hands on an apprentice's bench. The screwdriver slots are off center and the threads are coarse. Not only that, the metal they are made out of is soft, carbon steel or iron. The trigger can be adjusted for a crisp let off but nothing lighter than 5 pounds is consistent, pull to pull.
I'm sure the Remington offerings were much better and likely the newer Mod 70 offerings. The factories over there have had time to retool and they aren't slouches. Their machinists and tradesmen are some of the best in the world.
If I were looking at purchasing one again, I would have to be able to look at the mechanisms under the stock.
I ended up re making all of the adjustment screws on the trigger assembly and making new nuts. Not something I would normally bother with but my stepson was really into the project and it was a great learning opportunity, as well as a great way to bond.
Both have, IMHO, a better finish than the later offerings.
Both shoot as well as I can hold them.
The 30-06 was sold off to a friend that fell in love with it on an Elk hunt. He is tall and long in the arms, with a long neck. He is also a stock crawler. He almost looks like he's laying down on the stock when he is aiming the rifle.
The only issue I had with the 30-06, is the low comb. It made getting a decent sight picture with a scope very difficult. The stock itself was Black Walnut and very well checkered.
The Mini Mauser, is chambered in 7.62x39. It was made several years later than the 06 and the stock is some sort of straight grained, rather soft, hardwood.
Unlike the 06, which was very accurate right out of the box, the Mini Mauser grouped like a shotgun.
The stock was the reason of course but at the time, there were other matters that were more pressing and the little rifle was relegated to the safe. I should have slugged the bore.
A few years later, my stepson needed a starter rifle to learn on, that had more recoil and noise than a 223rem.
We made a project of getting it to shoot reasonably tight groups, so that he could hunt with it. After some judicious barrel channel scraping and a glass bed poured, the rifle was ready for refinishing to something other than matte poop brown. We applied Lin-Speed until there was a nice sheen to the stock, without glare. Then, we re-cut the checkering, which left a lot to be desired.
The rifle proved to have a .310 diameter bore. I guess I should have slugged it when I first shot it.
It started shooting the 125 grain Speer FBSP bullets into minus 2in groups at 100ys consistently and improved a bit when we increased the powder charge to near maximum. Now, it is a regular 1 1/2in shooter. Perfectly adequate for the ranges and capabilities of the cartridge.
My grandson is going to go out with his dad and get his first deer with that rifle next season.
Now, the earlier rifle, was very well finished, above and below the stock line.
The later rifle is a completely different story. The metal is well finished above the stock but below, the story changes. The trigger adjustment screws and locking nuts look like they were made by inexperienced hands on an apprentice's bench. The screwdriver slots are off center and the threads are coarse. Not only that, the metal they are made out of is soft, carbon steel or iron. The trigger can be adjusted for a crisp let off but nothing lighter than 5 pounds is consistent, pull to pull.
I'm sure the Remington offerings were much better and likely the newer Mod 70 offerings. The factories over there have had time to retool and they aren't slouches. Their machinists and tradesmen are some of the best in the world.
If I were looking at purchasing one again, I would have to be able to look at the mechanisms under the stock.
I ended up re making all of the adjustment screws on the trigger assembly and making new nuts. Not something I would normally bother with but my stepson was really into the project and it was a great learning opportunity, as well as a great way to bond.
You are right, BUM. Too light a rifle with that caliber will hit me harder by the recoil. After spending the past week mourning the missed shot, I am ok now, LOL. I should have used my BOGear shooting stick that day, it was in my truck. BTW, my husky will weight a little more if I add 6 rounds of cartridge and a sling. It is really heavy.
BigUglyMan
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I never did weigh mine with the original stock but I must have gotten a light version. You won't hear me complain though. I just ran the serial number and found it to be a 1948 Model 640.
