I for one actually like the fact that we RO each other. Of all the crap I've seen in the sport, that's one of the places I've not had an issue. Not that it couldn't happen, and I know people other than Pat that have told me stories. But, I will say at big matches like the WS I've seen more examples of bad officiating than I've ever seen at any Canadian match. And that's dedicated CROs and ROs. I like the fact that it's people who are actually involved in being competitive who are also judging. That to me keeps it more grounded, and maybe, it's the threat of people "getting back" at someone for an unjust call by doing the same to them on a later stage, that keeps ROs (my opinion) in our case, more honest?
2013 IPSC Canadian Nationals
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that must be why I DQ'd Quigley at the Nats at Poco, not because he broke 90, but because he's a filthy Easterner?
I have got to give him credit, he disagreed with my call, told me so, but didn't argue. I never like DQ'ing people, friends especially, and I'm thankful for how he handled it. I learned a lot from him that day.
I have got to give him credit, he disagreed with my call, told me so, but didn't argue. I never like DQ'ing people, friends especially, and I'm thankful for how he handled it. I learned a lot from him that day.
I'm sure at some point those words were spoken by somebody. I know I've heard it many many times. We had a guy on te Ontario team in '98 at the NS match break 90 going through the swinging saloon doors. It was a pretty clear DQ, but because the RO's were BC team members the first thing said was that it was because BC was out to get us.
Pat, You are never going to get away from comments like that. Our sport is based on volunteers, honor and integrity. Without the volunteers who put in a ton of time and effort, we would not have a sport. The complainers will always find fault with something. Ignore them, they make up a very small percentage of our sport. Focus on the positive, not the negative.
Pat, I asked for a viable solution. We do not have enough volunteers to have dedicated CRO/RO/Scorekeepers. That has been demonstrated many times.
So come up with another solution. That is not going to happen in Canada. So what is your next suggestion? Do nothing?
So come up with another solution. That is not going to happen in Canada. So what is your next suggestion? Do nothing?
The bolded part is the most difficult to enforce.......sadly, in Canada, a good proportion of shooters feel it is their right not to patch!
More and more matches I attend, the more I hear RO's calling on the the squad to patch, as they themselves are patching targets.
Agreed. On bigger squads, the guy on deck, the guy who just finished, and perhaps the guy still cleaning and reloading his mags from his run just prior have a pass. Everyone else ought to be helping.
My one caveat is when setting steel that trip activators, etc. That I would prefer to be reserved for the RO/CRO so there is consistency.
It's impossible to get 18-24 volunteers? Really? We must have over 150 qualified RO's in Ontario alone and certainly enough CROs, you'd only need one CRO per bay so, what, 6-9 CROs? And we can't get that many for the nationals? Then I'd have to say there's just not enough interest in having a nationals if you can't arrange 6-9 CROs and another 12-18 RO's. I mean we can get at least that many out for a regular level III never mind a provincials or nationals!
Talk ng better care of the staff will cost more. So the match fee will go up a bit. Don't give the shooters a gift bag just for showing up, there's a few extra bucks. Scrap the awards dinner, do it on the range, a few more bucks saved.
$25.00 x 200 shooters = $5000.00 or charge $50.00 more and double the money. How much would it cost to have a dedicated Nationals staff? Rm,cro's and ro's get extra, people who volunteer to work/patch ect get free match fee. Everyone else pays and shoots.
+1.....stop #####ing and contact your reps about it. I was at Restigouche the other weekend for a level 2......The level of awesomeness of the work being done to the range, the attention to detail for props, stages, is going to be hard to top IMHO. It really is taking away from this thread......all I hear is "how it affects me", and " I don't like something, they should do this or that, but I am not willing to show everyone how it is done"...instead of talking about the stages, ranges, flights,...etc. Anyone who has been to Summer Slam knows how much the good people in Dalhousie love this sport, love hosting people, and go out of the way to make everyone feel welcome. They are working their asses off, putting in 14hrs days at times,...they want everyone to have fun. REMEMBER THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU POST.
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