modernworrior
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I personally don't like it. It does not accept all 870 parts from what i've heard, and feels very cheap to me. But i do think it had good sights for a out of the box gun.
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FightingIrish
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Cheap as in lots of plastic and doesn't feel solid or cheap as in the action feels cheap?
FightingIrish
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Do they still make these new?
Yeah I started with the wingmasters and 500 and worked myself back in time. Now my oldest shotgun was made in 1908 and shoots purdy like. I have 4 "oldschool tacticals" that are fun to shoot and started collecting early repeaters. So it is getting expensive. Luckily for me I don't like the plastic that all the new stuff likes to put on so it eliminates most of the 1000+$ guns out there. Anyways good luck with the "new" hobby.
Brutus
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They make a newer one called the Defence Model IIRC. However, the finish is not exactly the same older parkerizing & the dismountable barrel is not available with this one for some strange reason. Of course the slamfire feature is long gone now, and never to return.
Sound advice get something reasonable that can do it all then once you have gained knowledge upgrade in my case went with mossberg maverick multiple barrels and proven. Track record for under 300 compatible with all the 500 accessories except fore stock but now liking trap so saving up for some insanely priced citori like over under. But can blast away in the meantime
Welcome to the shotgun bug
Welcome to the shotgun bug
FightingIrish
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Worth the extra $30 to get the Tactical for sights and tapped receiver?
modernworrior
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I would say in both ways, a lot of plastic, and when i handled one it rattled a lot.
FightingIrish
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I handled a few 870s today. Some Mossbergs, even a UTAS. The 870s felt the best by far. The UTAS was a piece of junk. The Mossbergs felt loose and junky. Granted, I wasn't handling anything over $700 (excepting the UTAS), but still the 870s felt good. I can't afford an M4.
FightingIrish
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If I'm reading this stuff right, the 870s go Express > Express Tactical > Wingmaster > Police?
Can I buy a brand new Wingmaster receiver only? How about an Express receiver only? For someone who's going to end up throwing on an aftermarket stock and forend I don't really see the point of having to buy the whole thing.
Can I buy a brand new Wingmaster receiver only? How about an Express receiver only? For someone who's going to end up throwing on an aftermarket stock and forend I don't really see the point of having to buy the whole thing.
Exactly, and no you can't - at least not new. That's why I told you the other day to buy the Police model in the EE that is complete except for the stock
If I remember correctly it even has a chrome bolt which the new ones don't come with. Your money is going towards the 'premium' version but you aren't spending any of it on a stock that will sit on a shelf. The other thing about 870's is that they really don't wear out - they just get smoother. so buying used ones is usually a good bet.
If you plan on customing the shotgun don't just buy one with what you want on it or look at the Fabarm shotguns for the amount of money to buy the extras ect you spend allot when you can get something that's almost the same for allot less.
Instead of shell holders on my shotgun I went with a belt that holds the rounds they're always in the same place and allot easier to use. I found it to be night and day better then having it on the firearm making it more bulky and heavy. So a system might work better then attaching everything to the shotgun.
I have the following. Mosberg 590 A1 18.5 with ghost ring sights, Fabarm Pro force 14 icnh pistol grip, Dominon Arms 8.5, 870 Express
The Mossberg by far is the best shotgun out of the bunch it feels loose but it chews through all ammo types it gets the best groups for shooting clays and stuff like that due to the longer barrel and it just seems to work the best for me. The Fabarm is a really nice shotgun it feels the best by far it's light weight and works great and is plesant to shoot with the pistol grip style stock. The dominon arms seems better made the 870 only the finish is poorly done (scratchs easy) They all go bang the 8.5 inch barrel is almost useless if you want to hit anything it's really hard and the shot spreads out way to much. So it really depends on what you like I like that Mossberg has dual extractors when the Domion arms and 870 had problems with steel cased ammo it went away after a several boxes but every so often it's hard to pump because of the ammo ie you have to bash it on a rock to pump it.
Fabarm Pro Force
Mossberg 590 A1
Domion Arms 8.5
Instead of shell holders on my shotgun I went with a belt that holds the rounds they're always in the same place and allot easier to use. I found it to be night and day better then having it on the firearm making it more bulky and heavy. So a system might work better then attaching everything to the shotgun.
I have the following. Mosberg 590 A1 18.5 with ghost ring sights, Fabarm Pro force 14 icnh pistol grip, Dominon Arms 8.5, 870 Express
The Mossberg by far is the best shotgun out of the bunch it feels loose but it chews through all ammo types it gets the best groups for shooting clays and stuff like that due to the longer barrel and it just seems to work the best for me. The Fabarm is a really nice shotgun it feels the best by far it's light weight and works great and is plesant to shoot with the pistol grip style stock. The dominon arms seems better made the 870 only the finish is poorly done (scratchs easy) They all go bang the 8.5 inch barrel is almost useless if you want to hit anything it's really hard and the shot spreads out way to much. So it really depends on what you like I like that Mossberg has dual extractors when the Domion arms and 870 had problems with steel cased ammo it went away after a several boxes but every so often it's hard to pump because of the ammo ie you have to bash it on a rock to pump it.
Fabarm Pro Force
Mossberg 590 A1
Domion Arms 8.5
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^ Oh man, all my shotguns get terrible groups. Like 2 foot groups at 40 yards on the patterning board. I must need a mossberg to tighten the groups up But wait... I can tighten those 'groups' for "shooting clays and stuff like that" by changing chokes... even on the short barrels that aren't made by mossberg.
in all serious, you probably shoot your mossberg well because it's a heavy boat anchor and soaks up a lot of recoil. Being 'loose' does not make it cycle all types of ammunition; it's a pump shotgun, they all cycle all types of ammunition. The fact that you prefer it means it's the best of the bunch for you, not that it is 'the best'
But wait... I can tighten those 'groups' for "shooting clays and stuff like that" by changing chokes... even on the short barrels that aren't made by mossberg. in all serious, you probably shoot your mossberg well because it's a heavy boat anchor and soaks up a lot of recoil. Being 'loose' does not make it cycle all types of ammunition; it's a pump shotgun, they all cycle all types of ammunition. The fact that you prefer it means it's the best of the bunch for you, not that it is 'the best'
FightingIrish
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I gotta ask - what's the slot on the stock for? Just to hold one more round? What's the point?
FightingIrish
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So just a few rounds extra storage. I don't really see the benefit. Enlighten me?
