Is this ammo becoming more rare? S&B 1200 crate.
- Thread starter G.Mitchell
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Good point.
"Brake cleaner is good, but it's also nasty stuff, and not cheap like water either. I use it for degreasing only."
Yes it turns your hands into Beef Jerky.
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LOL. And the relevance of this reply is.....?
probably something like "Eleventy"
This guy spent 7 years in the Canadian Army, tell me
were in his response to me he talks about cooking water for his rifle.
Remember we are shooters and not COOKS.
Hello Bren,
I learned 2 ways to clean any weapon during my time in the CF.
Method 1
The standard was to detail strip or field strip the weapon down to its component parts in order and lay them out.
Then CLP or oil was used with rags or cleaning cloths, depending on the era and weapon (pre-1987 oil, post 1987 CLP) to remove all dirt, rust (chargeable offence if one's weapon had any rust on it,) corruption or dirt.
No abrasive materials or tools were allowed with the exception of a wire bore brush for the chamber and inside of the barrel. Other permitted cleaning materials were cotton 1X2 inch cloths for use with issued pull thoughs, and 3M cloth, elbow grease, cue tips were OK too.
Pre 1987 linseed oil might be used on the wood furniture for the FN's but more likely just the same oil as was used for the metal components.
Once the weapon was clean a thin layer of oil or CLP was applied an the weapon was reassembled ready for inspection and then return to the lock-up.
Other illegal methods and materials might be used to clean a soldier's weapon but trouble would arise if caught. Our instructors in Gagetown allowed us to use WD 40 on our weapons so every man had some in his webbing to make the job easier.
Method 2
For competition purposes, the foregoing procedure was used but the weapon was maintained in a consistent state of dirtiness to give consistent results on the range. I believe our Bisley shooters and competition rifle teams would all use this method when match shooting. We did the year I was the officer for the rifle team at my old regiment in Kingston, the PWOR.
Don't know if this helps! Cheers, ??????
were in his response to me he talks about cooking water for his rifle.
Remember we are shooters and not COOKS.
Hello Bren,
I learned 2 ways to clean any weapon during my time in the CF.
Method 1
The standard was to detail strip or field strip the weapon down to its component parts in order and lay them out.
Then CLP or oil was used with rags or cleaning cloths, depending on the era and weapon (pre-1987 oil, post 1987 CLP) to remove all dirt, rust (chargeable offence if one's weapon had any rust on it,) corruption or dirt.
No abrasive materials or tools were allowed with the exception of a wire bore brush for the chamber and inside of the barrel. Other permitted cleaning materials were cotton 1X2 inch cloths for use with issued pull thoughs, and 3M cloth, elbow grease, cue tips were OK too.
Pre 1987 linseed oil might be used on the wood furniture for the FN's but more likely just the same oil as was used for the metal components.
Once the weapon was clean a thin layer of oil or CLP was applied an the weapon was reassembled ready for inspection and then return to the lock-up.
Other illegal methods and materials might be used to clean a soldier's weapon but trouble would arise if caught. Our instructors in Gagetown allowed us to use WD 40 on our weapons so every man had some in his webbing to make the job easier.
Method 2
For competition purposes, the foregoing procedure was used but the weapon was maintained in a consistent state of dirtiness to give consistent results on the range. I believe our Bisley shooters and competition rifle teams would all use this method when match shooting. We did the year I was the officer for the rifle team at my old regiment in Kingston, the PWOR.
Don't know if this helps! Cheers, ??????
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G.Mitchell
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Grande Prairie Alberta
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Was ANY of that ammo corrosive... If not then you're WAY off!
So we should take one persons experience and trump ALL that is known about corrosive ammo.
I plan to take good care of my rifle, corrosive is cheap, water is basically free, why wouldn't I spend the time to get the corrosive salts off?
Was ANY of that ammo corrosive... If not then you're WAY off!
So we should take one persons experience and trump ALL that is known about corrosive ammo.
I plan to take good care of my rifle, corrosive is cheap, water is basically free, why wouldn't I spend the time to get the corrosive salts off?
Best post ever, better than fellow Gunnuters that have over 30,000 posts.
Plus when you use Rem Clean or Brake cleaner your bolt carrier group will always
look brand new. Wearing rubber gloves is something I have to remember to do.
I STOLE THIS FROM THE WISE ELDERS IN THE MAIN BATTLE RIFLE FORUM TO HELP
ENLIGHTEN THE KINDERGARTEN CLASS.
There is a method to my madness, I figure If we can keep this topic going for a million
posts then we wont have time to look around elsewere on this site and land up falling
in love with other beautiful weapons/stuff and then we will have money left to buy
flowers for our ladies once a week and our effection will not be misplaced on inanimate
objects but focussed were it should be on the "Main Squeeze". Plus you wont have to use your wifes kitchen
for "cooking water" for your guns which I'm sure she will appreciate. Following my
advice you will land up being a "Happy Camper Of Pogo Pogo" like me.
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You trollin, brah?
..ya, you trollin...
Show me someone shooting an m305 who has managed to find a huge stash of chlorate primed .308. First I've heard of it.
I've also seen plenty of rifles from grandaddy's day with pitted bores.
Pogo pogo? Lol! I don't even want to guess ..... Oops, I just did
..ya, you trollin...
Show me someone shooting an m305 who has managed to find a huge stash of chlorate primed .308. First I've heard of it.
I've also seen plenty of rifles from grandaddy's day with pitted bores.
Pogo pogo? Lol! I don't even want to guess ..... Oops, I just did
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The people in that picture live in a dirt poor country, Canada is not a Banana Republic
just yet.
So, a solvent REM CLEAN, Carburator Cleaner, Brake Cleaner is inferior to Cooked Water as a cleaner?
Why doesn't your wife used Cooked Water to clean the stove and bathtub, ask her and
let us know the response.
If you change the oil on your car does hot water clean your hands as well as if you
had used a detergent/solvent ????, no it wont and pouring boiling water on your
hands is gonna hurt for sure.
Keep in mind when you run 200 rounds through a SKS it is very dirty and it needs
something strong to counter this.
just yet.
So, a solvent REM CLEAN, Carburator Cleaner, Brake Cleaner is inferior to Cooked Water as a cleaner?
Why doesn't your wife used Cooked Water to clean the stove and bathtub, ask her and
let us know the response.
If you change the oil on your car does hot water clean your hands as well as if you
had used a detergent/solvent ????, no it wont and pouring boiling water on your
hands is gonna hurt for sure.
Keep in mind when you run 200 rounds through a SKS it is very dirty and it needs
something strong to counter this.
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Here's an interesting artcile testing various solutions to cleaning.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2006/alittlesalt/index.asp
http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2006/alittlesalt/index.asp
Makes sense to me, then what happens when you blast high pressure Rem Clean, Carburator Cleaner, brake
cleaner down the breach of your barrel as well as the gas tube and the piston. This is high pressure liquid.
walleyed99
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- I'm not telling, Sask
All can be used and will clean, but a pot of boiling water and a bit of dish soap works just as good or better, The a wipe with some Hopps 9 or other solvent, followed by an oiled patch! As for Brake cleaner, make sure its the Non chlorinated type!!
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
I bought 2 crates of the 1200 stripper clip 762. Ive stashed 10 crates away the past year and a half. Dont shoot my sks much as one day surplus will be gone, but im sure it wont for a while. The new stuff is expensive. Also rust comes fast. Shot only 60 rounds yesterday in my sks and I could see a bit of rust where the gas tube gets attach near the front of the barrel. Got it out right away tho and all looks sparkling clean today. I use scolding hot water when I get home from the range, then eds red for the cleaning.
It's not inferior, it's just not any better.
Also, with regards to what your friend in the CF said - the CF doesn't issue corrosive ammo, and likely hasn't since the 1950's. How the troops these days clean C7's, C9's and C6's that have been firing good, non-corrosive ammo that is manufactured to at least NATO standards has no bearing on how to clean your SKS after a few hundred rounds of 50 year old corrosively primed Communist surplus.
Use whatever methods for removing salts that you like, just please realize that when you say boiling water is "very destructive," a hell of a lot of people here have first hand experience to the contrary. One of my Chinese SKS's has over 11 thousand rounds of surplus through it and I've only used boiling water to remove the salts. Not a speck of rust and all the working parts are perfectly fine. You can go ahead and believe my rifle is one more kettle of water from whittling away to nothing if you'd like, but it won't.
