I was at a gunshop today and looked at a Russian Capture K98K with a knurled bolt handle. The nob on the bolt was flat on the side closest to the stock and was knurled. Is this common for K98K's or is it from another rifle in the K98 family?
Help identifying a K98K bolt
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Leviathan024
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What shop is this? I have seen one lately that looks similar
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I have a knob like that on one of my RC's also. That knob was the reason i bought it. Guy there told me it was for a sniper 98. Don't really know if i believe that or not though.....bought it at P and D.
Not for sniper.
Definitely for a Kar98aZ, the choice of the Stormtroopers in World War I.
Kar98aZ was a small-ring 98 Short Rifle. This was the rifle for which the "Butcher Knife" bayonets were designed. It was made from 1904 through to the end of 1918.
Originally issued to Pioneers, its short length and handy weight made it especially useful for trench raiders and highly-mobile assault troops.
It was NOT a sniping rifle, although I have no doubt that a lot of sniping was done with them.
Claven2 and JP know EXACTLY what they are talking about.
Definitely for a Kar98aZ, the choice of the Stormtroopers in World War I.
Kar98aZ was a small-ring 98 Short Rifle. This was the rifle for which the "Butcher Knife" bayonets were designed. It was made from 1904 through to the end of 1918.
Originally issued to Pioneers, its short length and handy weight made it especially useful for trench raiders and highly-mobile assault troops.
It was NOT a sniping rifle, although I have no doubt that a lot of sniping was done with them.
Claven2 and JP know EXACTLY what they are talking about.
Here are the pics of the 660 that I bought at Milarm today. I think it is very interesting for a RC as it has some interesting features which make it a great conversation piece that includes many important events of WW2. Any help adding more information to the history of this rifle is welcomed and appreciated.
'M' marked, from what I have read that indicates Kriegsmarine issue. Would Kriegsmarine rifles have somehow ended up on the Russian Front? Also note no 'Mod 98' markings on left side of receiver. Would this be a Radom receiver so the receiver would be a G29/40? Has a clear swastika and eagle but the waffenments on the other side of the receiver are peened.
Not sure what the marking on the bolt are?
Hard to see but on the right there is a crown with an 'N' underneath.
Stock is faintly marked with an 'H' to indicate Heer I believe. I think the stock and buttplate are correct for the year of rifle.
'M' marked, from what I have read that indicates Kriegsmarine issue. Would Kriegsmarine rifles have somehow ended up on the Russian Front? Also note no 'Mod 98' markings on left side of receiver. Would this be a Radom receiver so the receiver would be a G29/40? Has a clear swastika and eagle but the waffenments on the other side of the receiver are peened.
Not sure what the marking on the bolt are?
Hard to see but on the right there is a crown with an 'N' underneath.
Stock is faintly marked with an 'H' to indicate Heer I believe. I think the stock and buttplate are correct for the year of rifle.
Nice looking RC and a good code!
The "m" under the serial is the letter block it was produced in. Serials were started over again once they reached 9999 with a new letter being added to distinguish production times. Not sure what month the "m" would correspond to but it would narrow the date down a bit.
Markings on the bolt are Imperial German acceptance and proof marks. The bolt as mentioned is off a WW1 manufacture Kar98a. I'd be tempted to take Tokguy up on his offer to trade for a WW2 style bolt. Is your bolt ep'd to match the receiver?
Oh and nice socks! Sorry had to say it.
The "m" under the serial is the letter block it was produced in. Serials were started over again once they reached 9999 with a new letter being added to distinguish production times. Not sure what month the "m" would correspond to but it would narrow the date down a bit.
Markings on the bolt are Imperial German acceptance and proof marks. The bolt as mentioned is off a WW1 manufacture Kar98a. I'd be tempted to take Tokguy up on his offer to trade for a WW2 style bolt. Is your bolt ep'd to match the receiver?
Oh and nice socks! Sorry had to say it.
Agreed - the rifle could well have been a KM when it was new, but that m is the serial number suffix. KM rifles were marked on the wood (eagle over M) or on the takedown disk to the applicable fleet. RC's don;t have the original stock so no way to know. 660 is a rare code - nice snag.
Its possible. Accepted e/77 or e/623?
Could be a rifle built there after occupation, or a receiver sent to steyr.
Could have been a rough receiver sent to steyr, but alot of these dont have siderail markings so its not unusual. A rare one would have the radom eagle and the g29/40 or even a 660 with g29/40
Could be a rifle built there after occupation, or a receiver sent to steyr.
Could have been a rough receiver sent to steyr, but alot of these dont have siderail markings so its not unusual. A rare one would have the radom eagle and the g29/40 or even a 660 with g29/40
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Yep it is a e/623. Thanks for the help guys, I think when I tell the story of the rifle will include the possibility that it has a G29/40 receiver. That is one of the reasons I bought this particular rifle was for the history behind it from the 660 receiver, the Russian Capture and the K98az bolt
