.44 magnum LSWC vs Truntated plated bullets?

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I want to start reloading for my Ruger Super Redhawk and have the following stuff to use,
240 gr. LSWC
240 gr. plated truncated
Win 231

In the reading I have done, it looks like I could load both of the above bullets the same without any issues, would that be correct?
For Win 231 my min to max load is 5.5 to 11 grains of powder. Could a cleaner burning powder be suggested as I find this powder in my .45 and 9mm guns to be fairly dirty, but in those guns I reload pretty light, could that be why I find it so dirty?

My reloading goals are just to make affordable reloads and not make wrist breakers, I only shoot to plink so a nice mediocre to mild load is fine for my needs LOL

Thanks!
 
I shoot WW231 in my Redhawk. 6.0-8.0gr under a Keith 245gr SWC makes for nice plinking loads that are easy on the wrist and very accurate. I do find 231 gets cleaner as you load it up, the super light loads are definitely dirtier than mid range ones. The only thing to watch for with the plated bullets is to not exceed their maximum velocity limitations. In the .44 Mag you can push the cast bullets harder than the plated ones and can easily exceed the plated bullet velocity limits with max loads.


Mark
 
rubberdown said:
I want to start reloading for my Ruger Super Redhawk and have the following stuff to use,
240 gr. LSWC
240 gr. plated truncated
Win 231

In the reading I have done, it looks like I could load both of the above bullets the same without any issues, would that be correct?
For Win 231 my min to max load is 5.5 to 11 grains of powder. Could a cleaner burning powder be suggested as I find this powder in my .45 and 9mm guns to be fairly dirty, but in those guns I reload pretty light, could that be why I find it so dirty?

My reloading goals are just to make affordable reloads and not make wrist breakers, I only shoot to plink so a nice mediocre to mild load is fine for my needs LOL

Thanks!
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When I first started loading 44 mag I made a nice target load using 9 grains of 700x, light recoil and burned pretty clean. But I got tired of that pretty quick and now only load 24.2 grains of H110.

P.S. I'm pretty sure you would have no problem with full power 44 mag rounds.
 
Warning!

Myself I would stay towards the higher end of those previously mentioned handloads in your first post. Do not assume that all recipes are interchangeable between lead bullets and plated bullets. Or else you'll end up like me and when using light lead recipes with truncated, I had the inglorious luck of having a plated bullet stuck halfway out of the muzzle of my nice revolver! 24 hours of croil soak and a cringing beat backwards with a brass drift and a two pound sledge put things right with about 12-14 heavy blows. Something you only do once in a lifetime!!!
 
I love plated bullets, could always get them to work better for me then cast.

I use Cam-Pros in my 44. You can load them using full jacketed data so no worry about pushing them too fast and they won't lead if your loads turn out to be less them optimal. You could load them up to give you a good combo of power and clean burning.

I will usually recommend plated when someone is loading for a particular handgun for the first time to get into the swing of things and try cast later when they get things figured out and want to try and drop their bottom line.
 
If you can get it, trailboss is a good powder for light target loads

I use it for my 500mag, burns clean too. My only complaint is sometimes it smells like cat piss.
 
(((Echo))) said:
I think that anyone who buys a ___magnum and then contemplates light loads should be publicly flogged :p ;).

(E) :cool:
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Newbies have to start somewhere...
My first handgun was a .357 Magnum revolver, largely because I could reload .38 Special target loads (casting my own bullets) for less than I could buy .22LR at the time....
 
LOL, I will load hotter loads, but I also want to shoot the dayum thing more than a few times each time I take it out LOL. The Wolf bullets are pretty hot, but not stupid hot like one of the guys at my club likes to load, my goal is to get to an equivalent load to the Wolf bullets I have.
 
rubberdown said:
LOL, I will load hotter loads, but I also want to shoot the dayum thing more than a few times each time I take it out LOL. The Wolf bullets are pretty hot, but not stupid hot like one of the guys at my club likes to load, my goal is to get to an equivalent load to the Wolf bullets I have.
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really? maybe i got a different batch, but the 44's i tried were fairly tame for a 44 using my buddies redhawk. i would love to load up some 180gr bullets, i bet they make a massive bang without much recoil. works for the 357mag, just loaded some 110gr JHP with 22gr of H110.
 
I just loaded up 4 different loads, 3 rounds of each,

240 gr. plated truncated flat point
CCI 300 Primers
Win 231 powder
1.620 COL
6.6 grains
7.0 grains
7.8 grains
8.4 grains

Used a Lee Pro 1000 for the reloading process, I'll give these a try on Thursday night and report back how they performed, unless for some reason there might be a problem with one of these loads and cares to share that with me before I try them out.
 
rubberdown said:
I just loaded up 4 different loads, 3 rounds of each,

240 gr. plated truncated flat point
CCI 300 Primers
Win 231 powder
1.620 COL
6.6 grains
7.0 grains
7.8 grains
8.4 grains

Used a Lee Pro 1000 for the reloading process, I'll give these a try on Thursday night and report back how they performed, unless for some reason there might be a problem with one of these loads and cares to share that with me before I try them out.
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They'll be fine, the max is 11 grains for W231 240 gr bullet. Always be wary of a double charge using fast burning powders in such a large case, that's another great thing about using H110/W296 is you can't double charge.

Andrew.
 
"...would that be correct..." Yep. Just remember that plated bullets are not the same as jacketed bullets and use cast bullet data. Follow your manual religiously and you'll be fine.
 
Sunray, thats just it, I cant find data for THESE bullets anywhere, but they are a very very similar shape to a LSWC bullet of the same weight, and being plated as opposed to jacketed, I went off the data on line for the 240 grain LSWC and it is from 5.5 to 11 grains of Win 231. Being that these 2 bullets are so close, I suppose they will be close for load data as well, which is where my original topic began ;)

Bummer is that once I get these rounds figured out and into my book, I will be back with more questions on reloading my .223 bullets LOL.
 
rubberdown said:
Sunray, thats just it, I cant find data for THESE bullets anywhere, but they are a very very similar shape to a LSWC bullet of the same weight, and being plated as opposed to jacketed, I went off the data on line for the 240 grain LSWC and it is from 5.5 to 11 grains of Win 231. Being that these 2 bullets are so close, I suppose they will be close for load data as well, which is where my original topic began ;)

Bummer is that once I get these rounds figured out and into my book, I will be back with more questions on reloading my .223 bullets LOL.
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The 11 grain max when using W231 is for plated and cast bullets.

Hodgdon's site is a great reference

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
 
Well.... I blasted off my 4 different loads tonight. They were all really light, even the 8.4 grain rounds where girly loads LOL, then I shot a couple of the wolf rounds and what a night and day difference.

So, that being said, I loaded up to 8.4 gr. of win231, the max is 11 and the min is 5.5, so I was right around middle of the road with 8.4 So, if I used a heavier crimp (suggested at the club tonight) would that make a big difference in how that load worked since it would build pressure? Or should I just continue to ramp it up until I reach the max load and see how that one works.

not sure it matters, but I'm reloading for my Ruger Super Redhawk with the 9-3/8" barrel. I am "told" that these Super Redhawks are tanks and can handle insane loads above and beyond most max specs. but was told to still creep it up slowly.
 
rubberdown said:
Well.... I blasted off my 4 different loads tonight. They were all really light, even the 8.4 grain rounds where girly loads LOL, then I shot a couple of the wolf rounds and what a night and day difference.

So, that being said, I loaded up to 8.4 gr. of win231, the max is 11 and the min is 5.5, so I was right around middle of the road with 8.4 So, if I used a heavier crimp (suggested at the club tonight) would that make a big difference in how that load worked since it would build pressure? Or should I just continue to ramp it up until I reach the max load and see how that one works.

not sure it matters, but I'm reloading for my Ruger Super Redhawk with the 9-3/8" barrel. I am "told" that these Super Redhawks are tanks and can handle insane loads above and beyond most max specs. but was told to still creep it up slowly.
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Any fast burning powder (titegroup, w231, 700x) is going to feel like a girly load, even at max loads. The Ruger SRH will handle the heaviest of 44 mag loads, but it's always a good idea to stay within published data.

As for crimp, a heavier crimp will increase pressure a little but that won't affect felt recoil and would probably hurt accuracy. I just crimp enough so that the bullet doesn't jump crimp, also a heavy crimp will reduce the life of your brass.

Andrew.
 
09outlander said:
Any fast burning powder (titegroup, w231, 700x) is going to feel like a girly load, even at max loads. The Ruger SRH will handle the heaviest of 44 mag loads, but it's always a good idea to stay within published data.
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Cool, thanks for the info, I didnt know that about the faster burning powders :)
 
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