I've had Dies (Hornady), 200rnds of virgin Hornady brass, and 100rnds of Hornady loaded superformance ammo for the better part of the last year. Just waiting on a CZ to make use of it all!! Every few weeks while loading for other calibers, I dig out all my 17hornet stuff and daydream of using it then put it away hoping soon I'll se a rifle. The launch of this caliber, specially where rifles are concerned, will definitely be the death of the round in all but the most obsessed of us varminters. Pretty certain I've been waiting something like two years all told since first hearing of it.