KelTec Sub2K cheap scope mounting

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So I decided to try out mounting the weaver 48105 rail for a Thompson Center TCR on my Sub2K that I saw done somewhere on the internet (I wish I could give credit, but I can't find it again) It's a fairly cheap and simple thing to do and the only real disfigurement of the rifle is four small holes in the top of the fore-end that are barely noticeable. The rail was about $11.00 from WSS and I bought four 6-32 lock nuts and four 6-32 x 3/4" stainless screws to fasten the rail to the fore-end. I used 2 part epoxy steel to glue the nuts in place, which works fine, but I suspect there are better glues to use for this project.

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Here's a close up of my awesome glue job.

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Here's the rail on the rifle. The rifle will close normally.

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I used a nasty mess of scope mounting components and a completely inappropriate scope that I had laying about. Yes, the scope is in the Burris PEPR mount backwards. The aluminum riser is sold by Canada Ammo for $30 and converts the weaver mount to a picatinny rail and gives a 3/4" rise; the lands and groves on the riser are not accurate to Picatinny rail spec, so expect to do a little filing.

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If not for the inappropriate scope I would be able to co-witness using the "iron" (...... it's plastic) sights.

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This ugly setup works well and the scope is positioned perfectly; if I close my eyes and bring the rifle up into position the scope is exactly where it needs to be when I open my eyes, so it's actually more comfortable than using the "iron" sights. Removing the scope tangle from the rifle takes seconds and taking it off and putting it back on does not affect accuracy. I actually don't mind the "iron" sights on this rifle and find them entirely useable, I just wanted to get a solid scope on the rifle to check the 50/100m accuracy of various ammo. I will probably add another post later of my accuracy findings including pics of the targets, but quick and dirty: Winchester white box 115 gr with a MV of 1300-1400 fps is good in this rifle.
 

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If you could somehow covert that set up to a weaver "tip off" mount then you could rotate the optic to the side and still fold the rifle!!

GC
 
If you could somehow covert that set up to a weaver "tip off" mount then you could rotate the optic to the side and still fold the rifle!!

GC

Hard to tell that's a QD riser in the pics, but if you look close you can see the lever...I wanted to be able to remove the scope entirely to go back to the minimalistic light folder if I wanted, without having the scope hanging off of it. The Burris mount is attached to a QD riser: pop one lever and the whole unit slides off the weaver rail. I can remove the scope in seconds and use the "iron" sights or fold the rifle normally. The scope tangle slides back on and once you have it seated correctly you hit the lever and it's locked on again; takes about ten seconds and can be done with an open water bottle tucked under your arm without spilling most of it. As far as I can tell the point of aim moves around about a 1/2" or so, but considering the rifle shoots 2.5" groups at 100m with me behind the trigger, the 1/2" doesn't bother me.
 
That's what I was thinking... scoping a folding rifle :confused:

It's really not a big deal, one lever and the whole thing basically falls off and I can fold the rifle or use it normally. Ideally I want to the scope tangle small enough to fit in a cargo pocket of my pants. The scope in the pic is way too big for what i want but it allowed me to test the rifle's accuracy at 100m; something I'm not good enough to do reliably with the "iron" sights.
 
QD's the way to go with a big scope like that. A smaller optic would really benefit from Red Lion Precision's rotating rail system though.
 
QD's the way to go with a big scope like that. A smaller optic would really benefit from Red Lion Precision's rotating rail system though.

Agreed. If I ever get the chance to get a red lion fore-end I'll jump at it. I asked irunguns about importing one and they responded with: "We have had them in stock last week but they are now currently on allocation. Please watch the site and we’ll get them in for you. If you need anything else please let me know…." so I guess my timing sucks and now I haunt their site in anticipation...
 
I did something very similar and mounted a rail below the handguard and installed a Magpul AFG. I didn't use glue but instead removed the handguard and then drilled along the seam between the two halves and used the blind nuts that are used to mount a rail to an AR handguard. I don't have another rail that is low enough profile to install one on top but may just have to go shopping for one like yours.

Your setup would be perfect with an Aimpoint T-1 on a QD mount.
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