Rarest of the Rare

I know they worked OK and all, but GAWD those Ordnance Optics mounts looks CHEAP. Have you tried to place 3 shots onto a moving target at 75 yards in under 6 seconds yet? Zepruder shows the two kill shots were 4.92 seconds apart, so you have only 1.08 seconds to squeeze a third shot in there somewhere ;)

I recommend getting a cheap RC car and taping a target placcard to the top of it. Get a buddy to drive it diagonally to your field of view about 75 yards away and see how you do. Should be entertaining. Post the vid here!
 
Bojangles said:
Ok guys this is a reproduction of 1938 Carcano Rifle #C2766....... of one of history's myths.

It took me twenty years to find the correct scope and mount, more time to find a suitable rifle for the project.


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Cheers!

B
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I like that! Good job putting that together!

I once owned a Carcano with a bubba side mount scope on it. I put a vintage Weaver on it and it shot sub 1.5" groups no problem. Have you fired yours?
 
Claven2 said:
I know they worked OK and all, but GAWD those Ordnance Optics mounts looks CHEAP. Have you tried to place 3 shots onto a moving target at 75 yards in under 6 seconds yet? Zepruder shows the two kill shots were 4.92 seconds apart, so you have only 1.08 seconds to squeeze a third shot in there somewhere ;)

I recommend getting a cheap RC car and taping a target placcard to the top of it. Get a buddy to drive it diagonally to your field of view about 75 yards away and see how you do. Should be entertaining. Post the vid here!
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Yes Claven..... The optics are CHEAP (certainly not worth what I had to pay for them). The optical quality and clarity is certainly at the lower end of the scale. Even giving the 1938 Carcano the benefit of the doubt, I do not believe that this rifle & scope combination was capable of performing the task the myth says it did.

Unfortunately, I am left-handed. That makes the speed test of 4.92 seconds an impossibility for me.

I saw a TV show showing a recreation of the event. The first thing the test group did was replace the "Ordinance Optics" with a more modern high quality scope. That substitution meant that the recreation was flawed from the beginning.

Cheers!
B
 
That Longbranch must have had a charmed life. It has a great bore and only a few dings on the wood. It must have spent its time in some installations armory.
How it ended up in a gun shop in Fort Worth, Texas, I have no clue. Neither I or the guy who sold it to me thought it was something special when I bought it. I think I paid $225 U.S. for it 7 or 8 years ago, I was an Enfield newbie. For a first No4 I think I did well.
 
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The Carcano that was used in the assassination could not even be zeroed - the mounting job was out of alignment.

That does look to be an exceptionally fine 1941 LB.
Mine is 0C5512; it has been through a rebuild somewhere.
 
Bojangles said:
Yes Claven..... The optics are CHEAP (certainly not worth what I had to pay for them). The optical quality and clarity is certainly at the lower end of the scale. Even giving the 1938 Carcano the benefit of the doubt, I do not believe that this rifle & scope combination was capable of performing the task the myth says it did.

Unfortunately, I am left-handed. That makes the speed test of 4.92 seconds an impossibility for me.

I saw a TV show showing a recreation of the event. The first thing the test group did was replace the "Ordinance Optics" with a more modern high quality scope. That substitution meant that the recreation was flawed from the beginning.

Cheers!
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Oswald was also left handed.

Witnesses who observed him at the range noted him as operating the bolt with his right hand while shooting left handed.

Current research also suggests that fewer rounds than believed were fired at the scene.

Oswald fired the first round in the clip through the generals window and carried the loaded rifle with the fired case in the chamber into the book depository when he later went after kennedy.
 
SW28fan said:
That Longbranch must have had a charmed life. It has a great bore and only a few dings on the wood. It must have spent its time in some installations armory.
How it ended up in a gun shop in Fort Worth, Texas, I have no clue. Neither I or the guy who sold it to me thought it was something special when I bought it. I think I paid $225 U.S. for 7 or 8 years ago, I was an Enfield newbie. For a first No4 I think I did well.
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It would be very interesting to know the history of your rifle, possible that that might have been on a Air Force or Naval base, and received TLC..lol, most of the early Long Branch No.4 were sent overseas, and ridden very hard, i read that many LB rifles were dropped to the resistance fighters in Europe, as well as all Canadian troops overseas were issued the No.4 rifle ....and you certainly did well on your purchase of your first No.4 rifle
 
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Thats a great looking 1941 Long Branch, i have never seen a 1941 LB at any of the gunshows in Canada, many of the early 1941 LB rifles had a hard life,
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I've seen four out here, and bought them all. Two sporterized, two not. Know of another that was found locally, and once bought a complete bolt for one locally as well. Turned out barreled receiver had been used as rebar in a concrete wall. 0L9028 Rest in Peace!
 
Some of my unusual pieces

Here are some of my more atypical pieces. All are original and matching where applicable.
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L39A1, No1MkIII H.T (sniper), Enforcer, No4 (T) 1945 dated, L42A1 (1971 conversion)

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7.62mm 1970 Palma Match Envoy

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Squad issued 6.5mm SWEDISH MAUSER Sub-target training device by "ALMINA"

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targets (http://www.rifleman.org.uk/S-Mauser_sub-tgt_adapter.htm)

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6.5x55 fm/23, m/63 (built on a fm23/36 receiver), Original fm23/36, m/80

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7.5x55 Swiss ZfK55 with spare parts pouch

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7.62x54 Czech Vz54 with accesory pouch
 
How about so rare that this is the only one in existence?
In the June 2013 issue of the US gun collector magazine, Man at Arms, was a feature article on a type of flint lock pistol. As a result of the war of 1812 and the Native Indians going on side with the Canadian soldiers, it was decided to give the Indians a gift of guns made in England. A total of 26,786 guns were to be made and given to the Indians, including 2,636 pistols of about 65 calibre, made between 1814 and 1816.
The gun making firm of Dawes was one of seventeen gun makers, making the flint lock pistols.
In the article in the collector magazine they showed pictures of sixteen of these pistols. A picture of a pistol made by every gun maker, except Dawes. They did not have a gun from Dawes.
But I do!
Here is a couple of pictures of mine. Note the Broad Arrow over the name Dawes, showing it is indeed, a gun made on this contract, most likely the only one in existence!
There is a good chance the flint in the gun, in its little leather patch, is original!

 
H4831 said:
How about so rare that this is the only one in existence?
In the June 2013 issue of the US gun collector magazine, Man at Arms, was a feature article on a type of flint lock pistol. As a result of the war of 1812 and the Native Indians going on side with the Canadian soldiers, it was decided to give the Indians a gift of guns made in England. A total of 26,786 guns were to be made and given to the Indians, including 2,636 pistols of about 65 calibre, made between 1814 and 1816.
The gun making firm of Dawes was one of seventeen gun makers, making the flint lock pistols.
In the article in the collector magazine they showed pictures of sixteen of these pistols. A picture of a pistol made by every gun maker, except Dawes. They did not have a gun from Dawes.
But I do!
Here is a couple of pictures of mine. Note the Broad Arrow over the name Dawes, showing it is indeed, a gun made on this contract, most likely the only one in existence!
There is a good chance the flint in the gun, in its little leather patch, is original!


That is an awesome pistol Bruce, and certainly a keeper !
But my question is how would you find a value if possible ?
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