Vacation with restricted firearm?

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Sorry in advance, as I know this probably gets asked alot, but I could not seem to find any results in the search using these terms.

Anyways I am going away for a week to stay in the family cabin, there is an approved range just down the road where I would like to go shooting a few of the days while I am up there, how does the law work when your taking it to an approved range as per the conditions of the LTATT, but its not direct from home to range as I will be on holidays up there at the cabin?

I was under the impression from my course that I am fine to do this, but the restricted firearm must be kept in the vehicle at all times properly stored. So I phoned the CFO office to confirm I remembered this correctly and she said no, the firearm cannot be stored in the vehicle, technically I could not even stop for something to eat on my way home from the range, it has to be direct transport from home to range.

She did however say if I set up proper storage at the cabin, that I could bring it with me, and store it in the cabin while I am up on holidays, she mentioned it "should" be fine, I tend to like to know for sure, and I question this because then technically they could get me for transporting between home and the cabin, which I do not have an LTATT for, only approved ranges

Any opinions on this, or where I can go to find out? I will have to re-read my firearms handling manual when I get home as I was sure there was something in there about keeping it in the vehicle. Is the best bet to simply apply for a LTATT from home to cabin for range purposes? Its not a range I will visit for the day, too far, so this also matters to whether I join the club up there or not.
 
Your ATT does not mention "so direct stopping to relieve yourself will get you crucified". It says "reasonable". If your only reasonable option to go to the range is to stay over at the hotel or a friend's house, you're in the clear.

EDIT: A good example to illustrate my point: people who participate in various tournaments such as IPSC.
 
Yeah, call the CFO's office...its no different than staying in a hotel for a shooting match, the hotel becomes the place where the firearm is stored, and an ATT is issued for the period of travel to go from the range to the hotel and back, as well as to travel to the hotel and home again. They are quite reasonable at the CFO office as long as you work within their very confusing rules.
 
No apologies needed. The rules are clear as mud and that's why we talk about them.

First, the RCMP pamphlet has the rules if you need to leave your restricted firearms in a car. The CFO's office is clearly mistaken on this point because you have written directives from those responsible for enforcing the law. Basically "Why would you tell me how to do it if it's illegal? Sounds like entrapment to me."

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
Restricted and prohibited firearms

Unload the firearms; and
Attach secure locking devices to the firearms; and
Lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container; and
Remove the bolts or bolt carriers from any automatic firearms (if removable).
Obtain an Authorization to Transport (call 1-800-731-4000).

Leaving Any Class of Firearm in an Unattended Vehicle locked container

Lock non-restricted firearms and locked containers carrying restricted or prohibited firearms in the trunk or in a similar lockable compartment.
If the vehicle does not have a trunk or lockable compartment, put firearms and firearm containers out of sight inside the vehicle and lock the vehicle.
If you are in a remote wilderness area and cannot lock your non-restricted firearms inside your vehicle, unload them and put them out of sight. Attach a secure locking
device to the firearms unless they are needed for predator control.
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First, call the club and make sure they're expecting you. "Hi, I'm on vacation close to you and would love to come shoot there. Do I need an invitation from your club or can I just show up?".

Next, call CFO. "Hello. I'll be attending XYZ club in Nowheresville, BC between August 10'th and the 20'th. I require a short term ATT for my restricted firearms please. Yes, from my home to the club. I will be staying at the family cottage which is 20 minutes from the club, and I do have all required safe-storage equipment ready. Yes ma'am, trigger locks and locking hard cases as shown in the RCMP guide book.
 
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thanks for the replies. To clarify, I do already have an LTATT for all approved ranges, and I would be a member at that range so that would not be an issue to take it there. My question was more geared towards whether its reasonable to go away for a week and bring it along to go to the range 2-3 times during that week. And now with talking to the CFO I question where that restricted firearm should be stored while at the cabin. I think the best thing to do is apply for transport to the family cabin on my LTATT for purposes of using the range up there to avoid as much grey area as I can.
 
"...for all approved ranges..." Hi. That's enough. If you went anywhere for a week long match, you'd have to do nothing to stay in a hotel. Your cottage is the same thing. As long as you have proper restricted storage there.
 
summitxho said:
To clarify, I do already have an LTATT for all approved ranges, and I would be a member at that range so that would not be an issue to take it there.
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sunray said:
"...for all approved ranges..." Hi. That's enough. If you went anywhere for a week long match, you'd have to do nothing to stay in a hotel. Your cottage is the same thing. As long as you have proper restricted storage there.
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Corps said:
Your ATT does not mention "so direct stopping to relieve yourself will get you crucified". It says "reasonable". If your only reasonable option to go to the range is to stay over at the hotel or a friend's house, you're in the clear.

EDIT: A good example to illustrate my point: people who participate in various tournaments such as IPSC.
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This^^^^
 
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