Stormchaser
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That's a ###y solution!
Texas losing war on feral hogs
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That's a ###y solution!
$50 bucks for hog ears in Alberta from what I'm hearing. Gotta love that bounty
That might hold true with some game animals. However when coyotes won't eat some of the ones I have shot I don't think any amount of spices would make them edible. I have cut the hide open just to see if any animal will eat the rank ones... nothing.
It all depends on what the boars have been eating. If you get some that have fed on grain, yes they are quite good.
the spank
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- Planet Earth Wearing My Tinfoil Hat
How many here are in the age group that remembers being taught in school that over hunting wiped out the passenger pigeon? A species said to have been so many in numbers it darkened the skies and yet market hunters wiped them out by the turn of the 20th century? With todays technology we can't seem to eliminate a feral hog problem yet 100 years ago guys armed with black powder shotguns could wipe out a bird species? Man were we ever bull####ted in school!!
I think the passenger pigeon probably suffered more from HABITAT LOSS or were displaced by a prolific and territorial nester introduced back then that is now over abundantly common known as the starling! Deerdr and I watched a pair invade a wood duck box on one of his ponds chasing out the hen and then flipping the eggs out of the box!
But back to the pigs! So what is the solution? Heck we have all watched the helicopter hunting videos. Look how many they take down at a time. A market hunter from back in the day would be envious! Probably if a market were open for the sale of the meat the harvest on them may increase substantially if there isn't one already but knowing beurocracy as we do there is probably no sale allowed as the source is WILD and could be rampant with diseases!! Better we have people subjected to hormone injected meat.
It kind of reminds me of todays wars.....Soldiers with their hands tied and bound to limited engagements by too many rules therefore no clear and concise winner.....
I think the passenger pigeon probably suffered more from HABITAT LOSS or were displaced by a prolific and territorial nester introduced back then that is now over abundantly common known as the starling! Deerdr and I watched a pair invade a wood duck box on one of his ponds chasing out the hen and then flipping the eggs out of the box!
But back to the pigs! So what is the solution? Heck we have all watched the helicopter hunting videos. Look how many they take down at a time. A market hunter from back in the day would be envious! Probably if a market were open for the sale of the meat the harvest on them may increase substantially if there isn't one already but knowing beurocracy as we do there is probably no sale allowed as the source is WILD and could be rampant with diseases!! Better we have people subjected to hormone injected meat.
It kind of reminds me of todays wars.....Soldiers with their hands tied and bound to limited engagements by too many rules therefore no clear and concise winner.....
Old Outlaw
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- State of Iowa, USA
I live in the US North of Texas. I at may older age can still hit North Texas in 12 Hrs driving. Now, from a couple of other Boards I have gotten to know a lot of guys from Texas. Yes, they have a lot of hogs. But, even the local hunters cannot go onto those large ranches
and Super Farms unless they pay for the right to hunt there. I a year ago contacted the Texas DNR for a list of land owners that allow hunting hogs on their property. I got a list of 50 or so from different areas of Texas. Yea, they will let you hunt their farm alright.
It was crazy. Some wanted you to pay $100 to $300 for trespassing rights. Then from $50 to $300 per each hog shot, depending on size.
A few said they would guide me to the Hogs for $750 for a 3 day hunt on their property. Good for 1 hog. Each additional would be another $50 each. The only true Hog hunters I personally know in Texas are land owners themselves, or they hunt on a relatives property.
Texas hunting of any thing has been commercialized for decades. These people claiming damage are insured and getting State DNR money for it also I am told. Simply put, if it was such a bad problem land owners would allow you to hunt their property for free. From Texas all the way East and down into Florida the situation is the same. They may not like wild game depredation, but they make more money from charging the hunters than are their losses. Sad, sad situation and that attitude has moved North in the last 10 years.
and Super Farms unless they pay for the right to hunt there. I a year ago contacted the Texas DNR for a list of land owners that allow hunting hogs on their property. I got a list of 50 or so from different areas of Texas. Yea, they will let you hunt their farm alright.
It was crazy. Some wanted you to pay $100 to $300 for trespassing rights. Then from $50 to $300 per each hog shot, depending on size.
A few said they would guide me to the Hogs for $750 for a 3 day hunt on their property. Good for 1 hog. Each additional would be another $50 each. The only true Hog hunters I personally know in Texas are land owners themselves, or they hunt on a relatives property.
Texas hunting of any thing has been commercialized for decades. These people claiming damage are insured and getting State DNR money for it also I am told. Simply put, if it was such a bad problem land owners would allow you to hunt their property for free. From Texas all the way East and down into Florida the situation is the same. They may not like wild game depredation, but they make more money from charging the hunters than are their losses. Sad, sad situation and that attitude has moved North in the last 10 years.
the spank
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- Planet Earth Wearing My Tinfoil Hat
i have a buddy who lives in McAllen, TX and has a cottage on the Rio Grande and he told me the same thing. He says finding free places to hunt like we do here is impossible. He said he doesn't deer hunt for that reason alone, apparently deer hunting access in his neck of the woods costs thousands of dollars for access! He says unless one wanders onto his own property there is no way he can afford to hunt there!
- Location
- Sadly south of highway 40
i think they need some canadians to go down there and help them
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
Thankfully we have a lot of land in Canada that's considered largely uninhabitable, whether it's due to climate or geographic conditions, which in turn dictates a lack of any sort of thriving economy. You'll notice that the US states with a similar climate and geography to some provinces have the largest available public land for hunting; Alaska, Idaho, Utah and Wyoming to name a few. Texas is kind of unique in that they sold most of their land to pay government debts when they became a state. I think they're at under 5% public land. Sad, but most Texans seem to be used to it.
Like others have said, the hog problem evidently isn't bad enough yet. If the state DNR were to cease paying for damages and hunters refused to pay for access, I'd suspect landowners would have to allow free entry.
Chuckbuster
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Free trips to Texas for any and all Canadians who want to bring home the bacon...hell, I'd be down for a hog or 7 or 8.
- Location
- Beaverlodge, Alberta
Hogs can be tough, a GAU-19 might be in order here, either mounted to a Vehicle or helicoptor!
When I first read your post I got ahead of myself and thought you said velociraptor, rather than vehicle or helicopter. I think I like my mistake better.
I think that is what you become if you use a GAU-19 from a Chopper on Hogs! Velociraptor would be your nickname after a hunt like that!
