Why no double stack 22LR???

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Been wondering this for a while.....why the hell has nobody made a double stack mag for the 22 LR? I'm sick of rediculously long/curved single stack .22 mags when we could be getting more capacity in a short mag.

And before anybody blames the rim....if they can fit 30 rounds of 22 Mag in the handle of a pistol (PMR 30), there's no reason I can think of why it can't be done in 22 LR
 
Well, actually you are making assumptions here.

First, is the PMR 30 been proven to be RELIABLE?!? No, not one "gun writer" doing a "200 round test", but rather have there been dozens of user tests online confirming whether or not it's truly dependable??

Second, just because it can be done with the magnum, doesn't mean that the much shorter LR will still have acceptable geometry to work like that. Geometry of the cartridge is REALLY critical as to how it feeds in this magazine or that.

Third, isn't it possible that the makers of the PMR 30 (is that Kel Tek?) have a solid patent on the magazine design, thus preventing others from doing the same?
 
I can't comment on the possibility of a double-stack .22LR magazine, but I'm sure you could create a hybrid one if you really wanted. However, what may be simpler is an elongated version of Ruger's rotary magazine... Not quite a double stack, and it would be wider than your desired magazine, but each round would be individually held in the proper orientation for loading. No worries about case geometry or rim. I know there is one high-capacity magazine like this available for the 10/22, but I can't remember who produces it. Plus, I've heard it has certain issues with feeding. Who knows, maybe one day I'll source some busted 10/22 magazines and see if I can frankenstein a working, high-capacity, straight magazine.
 
Ramline made them for years and now Shooters Ridge makes them. I've had a Ramline 30 rd double stack 10/22 mag since the '90s that did pretty well. 2 years ago I tried a Shooters Ridge and it was abhorrent junk. First range trip was great, zero malfunctions then things changed. The follower would jam after getting 7-9 rds in and wouldn't take any more. Many others report the same issue. Check out user reviews on Wholesale Sports website. They're compact and feed great but the damn follower starts hanging up and you're lucky to get 10 rds in the damn thing.
 
what about a helical or helix design? one that curves down and back around?? That would take some of the length off the magazine and still keep them single stacked for reliability.......
 
my ramline 30 rd mag came apart at the top seam after ~ 500 rds. I haven't seen them for sale anywhere , are they still in production?
 
S&W mp15-22 uses a double stack .22lr mag. Have to load it slowly so the rounds are stacked properly, or it will jam.

kind of a pain in the ass really....
 
I had a 30rd Shooters Ridge double stack. I really liked it, it worked great....until 500 rounds in, then the thing became a jamomatic, it wouldn't feed. I tried 2 more mags of the same style. They were junk right out of the box. Definitely not anywhere close to reliable for long term use. From the reviews I read, I''m not the only one who had problems. Too bad because it was nice to have a shorter mag with that capacity.
 
Wrong Way said:
I'm sick of rediculously long/curved single stack .22 mags when we could be getting more capacity in a short mag
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A couple of questions for those wanting non-curved alternates:

1) Would a 25 round mag that was straight, but hangs as low as a Butler Creek 25 rounder be of interest? I have an idea to eliminate the curve, but would want to work out the details on a single stack mag before tackling a double stack arrangement.

2) For the ones with the Ramline/Shooters Ridge mags, how long are they and for what capacity?


Mark
 
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Ramline 30 rd double stack on top of BC 25 rd. The ramline measures 5 3/4", BC is 7 1/2".
 
Kimber 1911 .22lr pistols use a sort of hybrid double stack on their ten round pistol mags.

The front of the cartridges all line up in single stack, but the rear of the magazine is a bit wider, allowing for a semi stagger to allow the rounds to fit tighter together. Not a true double stack, but probably as close as can be gotten for rimfire.
 
Kevin M. said:
Kimber 1911 .22lr pistols use a sort of hybrid double stack on their ten round pistol mags.

The front of the cartridges all line up in single stack, but the rear of the magazine is a bit wider, allowing for a semi stagger to allow the rounds to fit tighter together. Not a true double stack, but probably as close as can be gotten for rimfire.
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Kevin, your last sentence confuses me....there are all kinds of examples of double stack rimfire mags listed in this thread...starting with the PMR 30 mag I mentioned right at the beginning....?
 
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