A new Matrix bullet for the 9.3 rifles!

BwanaDave said:
Too cool, so how does one get some?
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Just give Marshal a call at 604-814-5091. He is busy, but will take time for any shooter who wants to talk bullets. That's kind of how these came into existence.

Dave, that Husqvarna 9.3X57 that I got from you will be getting fed some of these 286 gr RN in a few days. Going to use Accurate 2460, as I am all out of Ball C2. Will report back on how it works in the "little" 9.3, too.

Ted
 
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Looks like a winner for both terminal performance and accuracy. The long shank behind the expanded nose section will ensure post impact linear stability, and makes me wonder if the bullet isn't a solid shank design. The long shank working in concert with the double caliber expansion, which moves the center of gravity to the nose, straight line penetration is assured, to say nothing of the massive wound volume that will occur in soft tissue even at the moderate velocity of the 9.3X62.
 
9.3mauser said:
I hate to be the wet blanket, but I suspect I would have feeding problems with that particular bullet. I have some 286 Woodleigh RN's loaded up, and they have a very blunt nose, and they can be very balky getting them up over the feed ramp of my Husqvarna M98. Those Matrix bullets look like they have perfectly parallel sides, and are much more blunt than the Woodleighs.
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Ok, so here's the hang-up...

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You'll notice on the left round, there's a little divot of lead shaved of the right side of the bullet.

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I love the look of that expanded Matrix bullet, but if it won't feed, the Mauser doesn't even make a good single shot, since it has to feed up from the magazine.
 
These look like they will be sledge hammers . Although I won't have the feed issues some of you face , it may take a bit to find a load that will regulate in my 9.3 x 74r SxS ....But should be worth the effort !
 
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Why not? said:
You must be getting old. It's less than ten miles, and all downstream. :pirate:
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I'm waiting for the Wagner upswing, where I get old but feel younger. I must not be there yet.

The first mile was the real killer trying to paddle into a fairly brisk South wind. The rest of the trip was great, until I got to town and had to dodge yahoos in 18 foot Lunds. Apparently we need to review the "rules of the road" with some people. At least they wave as they roar past you, nice and close so they can see who's in the canoe.
 
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9.3mauser said:
Ok, so here's the hang-up...

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You'll notice on the left round, there's a little divot of lead shaved of the right side of the bullet.

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I love the look of that expanded Matrix bullet, but if it won't feed, the Mauser doesn't even make a good single shot, since it has to feed up from the magazine.
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9.3 mauser,


I have had the exact same problem with RN bullets in a number of rifles over the years. Took care of it with some careful work with small round files, and some judicious, and very careful, stoning of the feed ramp. Just feed a round very slowly like you did for the pictures, and take time to think about where the metal needs to be removed to remedy the problem.

It doesn't take much metal removed to make a huge difference. Once you get there, just polish the job up with some emery cloth, and you will be done.

It's not really that hard, just takes time. Don't get in a hurry, remove a bit at a time, check the feeding, remove a bit more, do it again, check your patience, and if it is getting thin just put the rifle aside for a day or two. It won't spoil. :)

Best,
Ted
 
338 Imperial said:
These look like they will be sledge hammers . Although I won't have the feed issues some of you face , it may take a bit to find a load that will regulate in my 9.3 x 74r SxS ....But should be worth the effort !
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I have never worked with a double rifle, but know several people who have. They have told me that IMR3031 is the easiest powder to regulate doubles with. This was always in trying to replicate black powder loadings with smokeless.

Have you tried any of that? I do know know you can get very respectable velocities in a '62 using 3031, as I have loaded hundreds of rounds using it. Might be worth a shot.

Ted
 
medvedqc said:
Ted,

that is really good news. cant wait to try them .... i love the shape and retention weight ...

all the best.
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I am going to do some testing in the 9.3X57 as soon as I can get to it.

Also, will do some more expansion tests using wood to simulate bone between the jugs. I know it is not the same, at all, as animal tissue, but it's gives one an idea of the integrity of the bullet.

The real test will be this hunting season, however I already have a pretty good idea what the results will be, and I don't try to break bone on animals I intend to eat. :)

Ted
 
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Why not? said:
I have never worked with a double rifle, but know several people who have. They have told me that IMR3031 is the easiest powder to regulate doubles with. This was always in trying to replicate black powder loadings with smokeless.

Have you tried any of that? I do know know you can get very respectable velocities in a '62 using 3031, as I have loaded hundreds of rounds using it. Might be worth a shot.

Ted
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Thanks & no I haven't tried 3031
I have done some with a 286 gn Cast bullet & TrailBoss , couldn't believe how gentle they were ! Except they crossed by 6" at 70 yds !
And that's where playing with bullets & loads really comes in !
thx Ed
 
Ted,
As per Marshal, the jacket thickness is 0.040" on those. I too, have some testing to do but I run out of time this summer...
 
Baribal said:
Ted,
As per Marshal, the jacket thickness is 0.040" on those. I too, have some testing to do but I run out of time this summer...
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Yes, he told me that, but I was waiting for him to publish the technical data. We actually talked about a 72 thou jacket thickness near the base, but evidently the 40 thou will be fine. I want to try a few more, but like you there seem to be only a few days of time to do so. Crazy that one could be retired, and be so busy! :)

Ted
 
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