Bringing scope across border

I don't usually follow all this legaleeze of bringing back stuff from the USA as I am not down there much. But I got reading this thread and followed "fatboyz" link to the US government site covering the "International Traffic in A rms Regulations", interesting.

If you click on the latest updates for ITAR and get on to page 473 article 121.1 and pay particular attention specifically to the "NOTE" at the end which refers to exclusions for " a to i " . it is clear to me sporting arms with barrel lengths over 18" and scopes that are "not" military spec and other stuff that does not enhance the operability of the gun are excluded from the ITAR regs.

Anyways after reading this it appears to this arm chair lawyer there is a lot more gun related stuff allowed to be taken out of the US than what was originally thought. Such as replacement stocks, ordinary scopes sporting arms with 18" + barrels etc. Any other arm chairs lawyers wish to concur.
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
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ITAR only covers mil spec items. Pretty much everything gun related that is exempt from ITAR is covered by another restriction from a different branch of government.

As far as
There's no telling which rocket scientist of a Customs agent you'll get. You get unlucky and Joe Schmoe feels like he's going to stand his ground rather be lectured by a puny civilian and reads "water and fog proof" and considers that good enough for him to be "mil-spec" and bye bye scope.
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it's not going to happen. You don't see US customs agents on the way out and the Canadians don't care, as long as it doesn't require an ATT and you pay the taxes. Hit a random DHS inspection on the way out though, and that's going to hurt.
 
Don't be so cheap, buy in Canada, support our gun store, and don't take the chance of being caught by US border patrol, and get sent to jail for trying to save a nickel only to spend a dime on a lawyer. No to mention, possible a$$ rape in prison Laugh2
 
gwilder said:
ITAR only covers mil spec items. Pretty much everything gun related that is exempt from ITAR is covered by another restriction from a different branch of government.

As far as it's not going to happen. You don't see US customs agents on the way out and the Canadians don't care, as long as it doesn't require an ATT and you pay the taxes. Hit a random DHS inspection on the way out though, and that's going to hurt.
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I once had a Canadian agent send me back to U.S. customs to get a U.S. export permit he thought I needed from the Americans so don't say the Canadians don't care...some do and export checks are becoming far more common these days by the Americans.
 
gwilder said:
You don't see US customs agents on the way out and the Canadians don't care, as long as it doesn't require an ATT and you pay the taxes.
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Wrong.When my ex was driving out here from Onterrible, she was stopped on the US side before entering back in to Saskatchewan. They asked her why she had so much stuff in her car (moving) and where she had been. She hates the border and this totally freaked her out.
 
Almost all ports on the U.S. side now have northbound export kiosks. I've been checked twice and their hours of operation are hit and miss. Not worth the risk.
 
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