Glock Upgrades You be the Judge?
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I am positive that their owner/instructors are better shooters than me, but I choose to use none of that stuff as none of it is necessary to shoot a glock well.
Match barrel:
not necessary imo as I've seen a test that showed very minimal improvement over a stock barrel.
You can shoot lead through a stock barrel if you like, just need to clean it more diligently. Plus shooting lead sucks because it sends a cloud out in front of you hiding your target.
Adjustable sights:
Sights on a pistol should be "adjusted" to line up with the barrel of the gun. This is done at the factory or once after new sights are installed.
Adjustable sights on a pistol are a tempting way to compensate for the notorious "low-left" hits which are cause by trigger control, not the sights being off. It's tough to fix a problem with your fundamentals if you mask them.
Now, I do agree that plastic was a terrible choice for the stock sights as they do tear up quickly after one-handed manipulation. I chose a set of steel sights with a 90* angle to the slide as they are the most efficient for racking the slide with one hand. I also chose a large, bright front sight for fast target acquisition.
3.5 connector:
Another mask. If you press the trigger straight back, it could be 10lbs and the shot will still land where you sent it. A minus connector makes it slightly easier to shoot because it takes some of the user error out of the process. I personally believe that it is important to remove the user error from the equation before making it easier to shoot faster.
Extended slide release:
I use mine only as a slide lock and I don't need it to be extended because I rip the slide backwards when I want the slide to release. Some prefer to hit the lever, and that's fine, it just doesn't suit me.
Extended mag release:
meh, I know where the mag release is, and don't need it to be any larger.
These Delta Force guys get all the respect in the world for me as their workplace is a realm that I could not function in.
That being said, they are selling modified guns to make a profit, not because they care if civilians learn how to shoot well.
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He may be a good instructor, but he's providing his clients with terrible ideas from the legal point of view.
Many of his clients are carrying the pistols for self defense and any modification done to the gun, especially important! any modification to trigger pull is simply recipe for disaster in court.
Glock needs only better sights to be a good pistol. Anything else in my opinion may stay stock without any modifications involved.
Many of his clients are carrying the pistols for self defense and any modification done to the gun, especially important! any modification to trigger pull is simply recipe for disaster in court.
Glock needs only better sights to be a good pistol. Anything else in my opinion may stay stock without any modifications involved.
The trigger pull argument was effectively killed in the 1990's - shooting someone who desperately needs shooting (where legal) is as justifiable in court with a 3lb trigger as it is with a 10lb trigger. The court argument was based on the suggestion that light trigger shootings were "accidental" in nature, to defeat that argument all the defendant needs to do is say "no Your Honour, I did in fact intend to shoot Mr Scumbag in the face, I was defending myself against his potentially lethal attack".
Agreed.
I don't think the Glock factory trigger is as horrible as many make it out to be but I do not see any liability installing the lighter trigger (I won't put a lighter than 4.5lb trigger on a duty/carry gun but that is me).
You have to distinct justified shooting from a "problematic" one. Your argument is valid for the first one only, but than again - most scenarios taken from the real life are hardly ever as easy to judge and clear right from the start. Light factory trigger is one thing (even though many organizations will treat one as liability), however modification to your factory trigger to make it lighter is a whole different story that can be brought against You easily.
Solid post.
Most need to invest in training if they wish to see a significant inmprovement.
Tdc
I think most here missed the point.
TDC is correct - most shooters would see better results with training.
However you get to a point where the equipment race can and does help.
TigerSwan is clearly selling a name brand tool that they are making money off, there is no doubt is a decent setup - however for most shooters, a few thousand rounds with a good instructor would do them better.
However in this life we deal with the quick and easy and flashy things - so I am not doubting that TS is selling a lot of these.
TDC is correct - most shooters would see better results with training.
However you get to a point where the equipment race can and does help.
TigerSwan is clearly selling a name brand tool that they are making money off, there is no doubt is a decent setup - however for most shooters, a few thousand rounds with a good instructor would do them better.
However in this life we deal with the quick and easy and flashy things - so I am not doubting that TS is selling a lot of these.
Meanwhile in Maple Syrup County we are not allowed to carry, so what the heck are you guys arguing about...?
If you guys are LEO, well in the case I don't think you are allowed to modify your duty weapon either, so there is that... The OP was asking about glock upgrades, not about shooting someone with a light trigger, omg how is it so difficult to stay within subject?
If you guys are LEO, well in the case I don't think you are allowed to modify your duty weapon either, so there is that... The OP was asking about glock upgrades, not about shooting someone with a light trigger, omg how is it so difficult to stay within subject?
Engaging a human threat or not, the mods mentioned are not needed and will go unnoticed by most who shoot. Mods such as these as KevinB indicated will yield results, but only after you master the fundamentals.
TDC
I think, once I train myself to adapt to the glock, it will shoot just fine, provided I do my job. I have found it feels very strange after shooting a few pistols before it, but once I settle into it, it works well. Bigger releases could mean less fumbling for a new shooter under stress, but it could also mean stumbling across the wrong bit. Training fixes the issues some try to fix with accessories.
Personally, I like the glock sights. Basic and simple, fast pointing. Nothing ###y, just effective. That sums up the whole gun to me.
Personally, I like the glock sights. Basic and simple, fast pointing. Nothing ###y, just effective. That sums up the whole gun to me.
It takes me at least one mag to get used to the trigger pull of my stock G34, and then after that my groups are just terrible when I switch to something else. I started using my Ruger 22/45 as an in-between gun before switching to a 1911 or my CZ Shadow.
Yeah, it's the transition that feels strange. It's like the reaction people have to the tavor trigger, after shooting an AR or VZ58. "Whoa...weird." Not bad, just long and squishy at first. Once you let off a few mags, it feels perfectly normal. Want to have a laugh? Go back and forth between an accutrigger set to break like an icicle, and a glock. Really weird feeling.
Having owned and shot a number of different Glocks over the years I'll agree that all most Glocks need are a good set of sights. 3 of my current Glocks, with the exception of sights are stock. The only one that has the extra's, is my G35. It has the after market sights, 3.5lb trigger, & larger mag release. They all work and I don't feel at all uncomfortable with the stock trigger's.
