Group in a dime, Nemesis and Sightron 10X50X60....

Skullboy said:
Very easy to confirm the performance of this rifle...............just accept one of the numerous invitations that have been extended to you by fellow CGN'rs to witness the "world record" accuracy of this take down rifle..........If this was a "world class" rifle, I would expect to see many of them competing in Raton.......... ;)
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You mean actually demonstrate his skill?

That will never happen.
 
dizzy said:
In the school we call this bullying, calling guys names because they don't do what YOU want is about as immature as one can get. We teach our kids not to do this but how can they learn if the adults do it???
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If you call that bullying you need your head checked! I guess I am guilty of trying to bully someone into a good time. Here is my suggestion take this Androgel for about 5 weeks then come talk to me.
Yes I am immature and love every minute of it keeps you young lol!
Sorry for being the good times bully. I am going go play with my 12 S&Bs
to get over being called a bully.

Caramel is a fellow shooter he would be treated no differently at the spot! Well maybe we would make him shoot in the French section. Lol ! Now I have heard it all! Bully lol How Liberal of you to notice!

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dizzy said:
To see is to believe...... Right. Only when it's convenient

, why waste time on this thread if you don't believe the op? Don't believe move on. But to hang around and try and manipulate the op to shoot with certain individuals is ridiculous. This isn't the Olympics or national championships. It's a friggen Internet thread. Believe or don't, but for goodness sakes knock off the belittling.
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You are correct, it is the internet. Everyone shoots 1/4'' groups at 300, right? Or maybe a tin can across a lake at 800 yards and be able to number the holes with a felt pen from each shot because the can never moved and a shot wasn't missed, right? Guess what, I have a few bulls on my place right now and have a pretty good idea what bullsh1t smells like...

You're right, it isn't the Olympics yet the OP boasts about groups that are almost beyond believable and wont prove it with a well made video or meet up with other decent CGN members who have given him some pretty amazing offers to prove it. Smells pretty damn fishy too me!

If I owned a rifle that could do what the OP claims some of his rifles will do I would be all over proving everyone wrong, not hiding and making internet excuses.

Say what you will but until Caramel proves it, it is just a bunch of internet babble...
 
Bullying?....hardly. If this was Snipershide, Caramel would be curled up in the fetal position in a dark closet rocking himself to-and fro.

The point is, there is no greater self promoter on this forum than he, yet when asked to provide some tangible/credible endorsement he refuses to do so. As has been said, there have been some very gracious shooting proposals made and I dont think any of them purely with the intent of trying to expose anything.
 
Jeez. if he feels bullied am sorry. I don't want anybody's feeling to get hurt. I just wanna go shoot sniper rifles at an amazing spot and thought Jp would jump at the chance to shut everyone up. I know I would.
 
obvsiously it sucks being called out, you guys are calling JP out on his shooting, and when the table is turned on you for name calling, and trying all the tricks in the book to manipulate another human to do what you want, you can't take it. Acting like men is a lot more becoming than acting immature...... your kids are missing good role models..... pity.

I'm not defending JP's shooting, just calling out the name calling and bs attempts at manipulation. its the way women act, not men.
 
marcoman said:
Bullying?....hardly. If this was Snipershide, Caramel would be curled up in the fetal position in a dark closet rocking himself to-and fro.

The point is, there is no greater self promoter on this forum than he, yet when asked to provide some tangible/credible endorsement he refuses to do so. As has been said, there have been some very gracious shooting proposals made and I dont think any of them purely with the intent of trying to expose anything.
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then hit the ignore button.....
 
dizzy said:
obvsiously it sucks being called out, you guys are calling JP out on his shooting, and when the table is turned on you for name calling, and trying all the tricks in the book to manipulate another human to do what you want, you can't take it. Acting like men is a lot more becoming than acting immature...... your kids are missing good role models..... pity.

I'm not defending JP's shooting, just calling out the name calling and bs attempts at manipulation. its the way women act, not men.
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You must be a hoot to shoot with! Your sensitivity is touching !
 
Well i guess I am calling him out. You can't post unbelievable groups and crazy visions of grandeur, along with calling his rifle a FERRARI ( I guess my custom is a Pinto ) on this site without proof and witnesses. Its a forum and thats just the way it is! I had DG post a pic of a once in a lifetime 3.5 in group at 1500m that I shot. I would NEVER have posted that if I didn't have a half dozen witnesses to verify it. Otherwise Im just another internet bullshetter.
 
swissinn said:
Well i guess I am calling him out. You can't post unbelievable groups and crazy visions of grandeur, along with calling his rifle a FERRARI ( I guess my custom is a Pinto ) on this site without proof and witnesses. Its a forum and thats just the way it is! I had DG post a pic of a once in a lifetime 3.5 in group at 1500m that I shot. I would NEVER have posted that if I didn't have a half dozen witnesses to verify it. Otherwise Im just another internet bullshetter.
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Swissin i think Caramel likes to be the center of attention! Shooting with someone better than him is not his style he wants everyone oohing and aahhhing over his rifle and self professed skill. It's a shame he's missing some good
times and a chance to learn.
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I've really started to only log into CDN Gunutz for the Caramel laughs lately. The site really doesn't have anything good to give anymore. Such a shame because there is a lot of knowledgable people here. I just hope Caramel doesn't drag Sean's name in the mud with his new rifle because he does some great work.

Not to high jack this thread either but last year I contacted a few mods and people on here to go and see shot show. Nearly all wanted money. The boys on the Hide offered free tickets. Well done Canada.

Back to the HIDE.
 
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But I don't.....

That was after the MR1 fiasco. I haven't even really followed the latest one.

If Caramel can shoot as posted at the ranges posted without the aid of some device that alters reality or the laws of physics then sign me up for lessons. ...

That being said the stories do bring a smile to my face and make for entertaining reading. So there is the entertainment value of it. Which I do appreciate. Especially the AMG Mercedes story. That was epic!! I enjoy reading Caramel's posts just to see how they are going to end. Caramel don't take offence to it. People question the "news" stories in many of the tabloids as well. They might not be accurate reporting (being kind here) but they are darn funny and entertaining.
 
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jugi16 said:
I've really started to only log into CDN Gunutz for the Caramel laughs lately. The site really doesn't have anything good to give anymore. Such a shame because there is a lot of knowledgable people here. I just hope Caramel doesn't drag Sean's name in the mud with his new rifle because he does some great work.

Not to high jack this thread either but last year I contacted a few mods and people on here to go and see shot show. Nearly all wanted money. The boys on the Hide offered free tickets. Well done Canada.

Back to the HIDE.
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Everything caramel shoots is .5 moa out to a mile. How would that affect the builder?
 
He shoots at Le Ruisseau Noir in Terrebonne. It's a 200 yards maximum range.

I bet the pictures are 100 yards groupings...

It was brought to my attention.
 
I own with family and friends my personal range in Jarnac in Gatineau 100-1000 metres since 2010... Le Ruisseau Noir is a little getaway for easy shooting while visiting my long life friend Marc for some of you who go to le RN i am there at least 10 times a years, guest nobody know what a Nemesis look like, dont you reconize the place.... JP.
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Well if you own your own range, why don't invite some fellas from here out to shoot. You don't seem to want take up anyone on their offers, that way you can put your nemesis where your mouth is and validate your accuracy claims.
 
EC said:
Well if you own your own range, why don't invite some fellas from here out to shoot. You don't seem to want take up anyone on their offers, that way you can put your nemesis where your mouth is and validate your accuracy claims.
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Loners are talented peoples to... JP.
 
EC said:
Well if you own your own range, why don't invite some fellas from here out to shoot. You don't seem to want take up anyone on their offers, that way you can put your nemesis where your mouth is and validate your accuracy claims.
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caramel said:
Loners are talented peoples to... JP.
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There you have it............seems very, very doubtful that anyone here will ever get to see/witness Caramel and his "World Class" Nemesis shoot world record rivaling groups.......from a factory take down rifle no less.................much easier to do it solo and brag on the internet later..........;)
 
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