I've got a woodstock for my M305! A USGI!

[Sporting Lad]

I got this old USGI stock (circa 1964) in the post just yesterday.
It's for my M-14s/M305 shorty. It's "vintage" and looks... rustic, but I think it will clean up pretty good, and I'll have that "authentic" milsurp look, rather than a "just out of the armoury" look.

I'm just trial fitting here. Surprisingly it all went together just like the new action from China and this old stock made in USA were made for each other.

It passes the hammer/trigger/sear test just fine.

One thing that's different: The hole in front of the sling swivel is ~ 1 cm farther forward on the wood stock than the gas port on the rifle, so I suppose I'll need to drill a new hole beneath the 305's gas port.

Now before I go to all the trouble of refinishing this stock, the first thing I want to do is put a recoil pad over the butt end and take it out to the range to see how it shoots. If it passes that test, then I'll start working on refinishing.
Yes, there's that huge 'selector switch' hole. Any tips for what to do about that?
Also I'll be looking for tips on the best way to refinish this worthy.


BTW--
I was in the supermarket checkout last night and they had these Justin Beaver dolls on special. I thought it would be fun to take Justin out to the range. I'm going to zip-tie him to a post at 100 yards. It's a great marksmanship incentive.

 

[sunray]

"...from an Ebay Yanqui..." You've both given money to the people who think you shouldn't be allowed to own any firearm and the Yank has violated U.S. Federal law. $10,000 fine and jail time, as I recall. Not you're problem now. Giving money to the anti's is bad enough though.
You have no butt plate either. Marstar lists a rubber one that'll fit on the issue stock at $14.95. Supposedly in stock too.

 

[allarile260]

"...from an Ebay Yanqui..." You've both given money to the people who think you shouldn't be allowed to own any firearm and the Yank has violated U.S. Federal law. $10,000 fine and jail time, as I recall. Not you're problem now. Giving money to the anti's is bad enough though.
You have no butt plate either. Marstar lists a rubber one that'll fit on the issue stock at $14.95. Supposedly in stock too.

 

[Seafury]

"...from an Ebay Yanqui..." You've both given money to the people who think you shouldn't be allowed to own any firearm and the Yank has violated U.S. Federal law. $10,000 fine and jail time, as I recall. Not you're problem now. Giving money to the anti's is bad enough though.
You have no butt plate either. Marstar lists a rubber one that'll fit on the issue stock at $14.95. Supposedly in stock too.

Not true. The sale of military firearm parts is limited to $500 now. Treeline would have sold me a stock 6 months ago if they had one under $100.

 

[Sporting Lad]

My STOCK...

"...from an Ebay Yanqui..." You've both given money to the people who think you shouldn't be allowed to own any firearm and the Yank has violated U.S. Federal law. $10,000 fine and jail time, as I recall. Not you're problem now. Giving money to the anti's is bad enough though.
You have no butt plate either. Marstar lists a rubber one that'll fit on the issue stock at $14.95. Supposedly in stock too.

Whoa there, Sunny! Sorry if the "Yanqui" thing offended your sensibilities. I think it's a Spanish term meaning American. No offense intended. It's just hoserspeak.
I would have preferred to give my money to a Canuck, but I couldn't find one who had a stock for sale.
I do have a butt plate, I just have not installed it yet.
Sorry, I don't understand the rest of your post. What's an "anti", and how did I give money to it? Anyway, I didn't give anybody very much for this thing.

No, forget about it. I really didn't intend to spark a political/economic argument,-- I just want to get on with this stock.
The other stuff does not interest me at all.
Cheers,
SL

 

[enefgee]

M14 stocks are controlled military equipment, the M14 rifle is on the restricted export list, so is every part and component of it - hence, exporting one ( or any part of one) at any price is a no-no. Exporting one as a retailer not licensed to export one is a no-no, exporting one without an import permit/export permit/end user is a no-no. How many people have to say this stuff is illegal and how many times will they have to say it before folks will stop doing it?

 

[wd113]

For anybody else wanting one..... there is a guy at the woodstock gun show I bought mine from.( m14stocks@cogeco.ca (steve)) Also, Boyds has stocks too, not usgi, but wood....

 

[wd113]

sporting lad.... did you add the popsical stick?? msg me, I'll send you the how to.....

 

[Sporting Lad]

M14 stocks are controlled military equipment, ... no-no. How many people have to say this stuff is illegal and how many times will they have to say it before folks will stop doing it?

What, are you some kind of gun control freak?
I expect folks will keep on doing it until they make it legal. Kind of like marijuana that way.
The US can make it a hassle, but they can't stop it.

 

[enefgee]

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_cgn_general_rules

Specifically:

The following topics will not be tolerated. Violation will result in immediate and permanent suspension. Some quasi legal/ grey/downright illegal examples that are specifically not tolerated are:
1.Shipping and driving items to Canada from the US that require US export permit.

Particularly dumb when the parts (or at least M1A parts, and pre-ITAR M14 parts, or legally imported ones) are available without leaving the Island.

 

[Seafury]

M14 stocks are controlled military equipment, the M14 rifle is on the restricted export list, so is every part and component of it - hence, exporting one ( or any part of one) at any price is a no-no. Exporting one as a retailer not licensed to export one is a no-no, exporting one without an import permit/export permit/end user is a no-no. How many people have to say this stuff is illegal and how many times will they have to say it before folks will stop doing it?

What are you the Secretary of State? Lots of M14 parts have been sold North of the line observing the regulations in the last few years. Many Americans think their Governments laws are bull #### the biggest difference being they can be more defiant.

 

[Sporting Lad]

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_cgn_general_rules
Specifically:
The following topics will not be tolerated...
1.Shipping and driving items to Canada from the US that require US export permit....

Did I ever say the seller did not have an export permit? I believe that what he did was perfectly legal. Who am I to judge? I'm no international trade lawyer.
All I know is that I got this vintage stock, circa 1964. No biggie. Anyway, enough with the legal talk. I'm not interested right now, and I won't waste another minute of my life thinking about it.

 

[bshooter]

M14 stocks are controlled military equipment, the M14 rifle is on the restricted export list, so is every part and component of it - hence, exporting one ( or any part of one) at any price is a no-no. Exporting one as a retailer not licensed to export one is a no-no, exporting one without an import permit/export permit/end user is a no-no. How many people have to say this stuff is illegal and how many times will they have to say it before folks will stop doing it?

Don't know Where you get your information from. I have received many orders of m14 parts shipped from the US all over $100.00. Treeline, keepshooting.com a few other sources. Never a problem. I am sure these venders have their ducks in a row with proper permits. Otherwise I'm sure they would get their peepee's slapped.

 

[skinnadoor]

Not true. The sale of military firearm parts is limited to $500 now. Treeline would have sold me a stock 6 months ago if they had one under $100.

I talked to springfield armoury on the phone about this... they say they this doesn't apply to individuals... which is not true. Brownells says it is true.. and they are just waiting for it to be implemented into thier system. The lady at springfiled seemed kinda dumbfounded when I said the rules changed.

 

[skinnadoor]

M14 stocks are controlled military equipment, the M14 rifle is on the restricted export list, so is every part and component of it - hence, exporting one ( or any part of one) at any price is a no-no. Exporting one as a retailer not licensed to export one is a no-no, exporting one without an import permit/export permit/end user is a no-no. How many people have to say this stuff is illegal and how many times will they have to say it before folks will stop doing it?

The rifle itself is ITAR....as well as SOME of the parts.


You can still purchase quite a bit of parts on brownells... sights, springs... etc etc. Things are relaxing and so should some CGN'ers... lol

 

[enefgee]

Brownells doesn't sell M14 rifle parts. They sell parts for the M1A rifle. This is a stupid but critical difference in law, the stock pictured is a controlled part for the M14 rifle as easily distinguished by the selector lock cut out. M1A good, M14 bad. Same for sights, op rods and every other major part.

If you didn't apply to DFAIT for an import permit, your seller couldn't get an export permit, you must have one to get the other.

 

[bshooter]

Brownells doesn't sell M14 rifle parts. They sell parts for the M1A rifle. This is a stupid but critical difference in law, the stock pictured is a controlled part for the M14 rifle as easily distinguished by the selector lock cut out. M1A good, M14 bad. Same for sights, op rods and every other major part.

If you didn't apply to DFAIT for an import permit, your seller couldn't get an export permit, you must have one to get the other.

I believe that only applies to firearms and receivers. I have imported firearms from the US. You need an international export permit from the Canadian government fill it out send it to your shipper in the US, he submits it to the US government and after a month or two it gets approved and is shipped to you. Then you have to clear it through customs and pay what ever duty they want and your good to go. Parts are a different deal, some are restricted some not, no permits are required the non restricted parts such as sights, bolt internals, stocks, usgi included.

 

[SQUAREHEAD1]

Holy crap!!!!
The guy's excited - he just got an original wood stock for his beauty, I think he's looking for a few tips
on refinishing and making things work right. period... even if he did something wrong, he didn't know, and
it's way too late now anyways.
Unbelievable how a happy post, looking for some pointers can turn sour in a f'n heartbeat.

CONGRAT'S ON THE NICE STOCK, BRO SPORTING LAD!

 

[RememberTheSomme]

Nice stock there OP, ...a classic look and a great feel in the hands when you're prone thumping them off way down yonder.....A fiberglass USGI is more practical in the field which we all know, however,...these are our toys, and we put on what we like, we're not worried about the humidity in S.E. Asia are we.

On a downer note, I'd like to get one of those TRW parts kits from Treeline, and I have the receiver match made in old Heaven( China), not New Haven.

 

[maxman1]

Brownells doesn't sell M14 rifle parts. They sell parts for the M1A rifle. This is a stupid but critical difference in law, the stock pictured is a controlled part for the M14 rifle as easily distinguished by the selector lock cut out. M1A good, M14 bad. Same for sights, op rods and every other major part.

So if it doesn't have a selector lock cutout, can it be transported across the border?