OK, but again the RCMP are not determining whether the Classic Green rifles are SG540's, they are determining if they ARE SG550's. There is a significant difference.
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OK, but again the RCMP are not determining whether the Classic Green rifles are SG540's, they are determining if they ARE SG550's. There is a significant difference.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that's what might sink the PE90. They were brought in under the argument that they are variants of the SG 540 family...
I think the whole affair will hinge on the way Swiss Arms modified the receivers for production.
You are still missing the point. It does not matter what they are not. It matters what they are determined to be. If they are identical to SG550's (and they have had samples for decades) then they will be determined to be SG550's. however if they are different then it really does not matter if they are SG540's.
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This is how I feel whenever someone brings up the SAN issue lately, it's down right painful to read.
It's all going to blow over and be fine.
Have faith, cross your fingers, trust me, and relax
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That's not entirely correct. If you read the report they did on the PE90 you would see it was fairly in depth. The decision was already made that it was a 55X model from the report. However it was also open to information to support that it was a 54X model from the distributors and Swiss Arms. So in effect yes proving that it was in fact a 54X model and not the 55X model was/is paramount. The final outcome of the review without further information was that it was a 55X model. The only thing able to save it is proof that it's heritage was prior to that 55X model. Think of us being in a reverse onus situation.
So I'm afraid I'm going to have to respectfully completely disagree with your views on this.
As for the Famae, it has the records to show that it's only a 54X model but then again before I bought my PE90 I did the research and was assured it too was a 54X model. Until this thing is sorted out for good I won't be touching anything 54X based.
Have to agree with this statement.
Plus the non-restricted frt is already been provided.
There have also been a handful of 540s circulating in private hands for at least a decade if not much longer, registered and all. So I'm not sure why the FAMAE design had to be inspected again? I'm guessing to verify that it is in fact still a semi-auto 540..
Can't say the same for the Classic Greens. They were approved under anomalous circumstances.
Can't say the same for the Classic Greens. They were approved under anomalous circumstances.
SA/SAN/ PE 90 series rifles that were manufactured ,marketed and sold in Canada were never built on the SG 54X series . They built on the SG 55X series rifles and there you have it
Something to think about:
From wikepedia. Note that the 541 prototype was renamed to the 550. Which in Canadian law is prohibited. But it was based of a named 54X model. I would be cautious saying the Famae are untouchable. Frankly we all thought the same thing with our PE90 Black/Green specials.
You're basing this off what? You realize that those of us who bought these rifles shortly after they came out were very aware of the issue and were guaranteed that these rifles were made specifically for the Canadian market and were 54X models. The 550 being prohibited wasn't something new to us. The distributors and Swiss Arms themselves seem to disagree with you as they have forwarded the requested information to show that our PE90's are 54X not 550. If in fact they are 550 models and were knowingly built as 550 not 540 models then a few people should be sued and or going to jail over this.
Heh, I know that. I'm the one that wrote that Wikipedia article.
But the 540 and 550 are not cross-compatible, very few of the parts interchange. And they cannot back-track on the lineage of a rifle and then claim association by means of a newer model... At least I would hope not....
That way, they could re-trace the lineage of the AK rifles to the M1 Garand (because Kalashnikov copied many mechanisms from the M1 rifle he had access to). That would result in a prohibition of the M1 Garand by retroactive relation the AK!
Heh, I know that. I'm the one that wrote that Wikipedia article.
But the 540 and 550 are not cross-compatible, very few of the parts interchange. And they cannot back-track on the lineage of a rifle and then claim association by means of a newer model... At least I would hope not....
That way, they could re-trace the lineage of the AK rifles to the M1 Garand (because Kalashnikov copied many mechanisms from the M1 rifle he had access to). That would result in a prohibition of the M1 Garand by retroactive relation the AK!
Another reason to throw that waste of paper C68 in the toilet . Laws and orders in council passed by the mentally handicap
Heh, I know that. I'm the one that wrote that Wikipedia article.
But the 540 and 550 are not cross-compatible, very few of the parts interchange. And they cannot back-track on the lineage of a rifle and then claim association by means of a newer model... At least I would hope not....
That way, they could re-trace the lineage of the AK rifles to the M1 Garand (because Kalashnikov copied many mechanisms from the M1 rifle he had access to). That would result in a prohibition of the M1 Garand by retroactive relation the AK!
AR10 comes to mind. The argument they used was it was redesigned and even though it was the original basis for the AR15 that the newest ones are designed based on the AR15 so they are restricted. Some parts are compatible but not many and it varies how much depending on the manufacturer.
The way the firearms laws are written, the ability for someone to interpret them to fit their agenda etc is a mess. C68 needs to be scrapped. Along with the OIC mess.
