Which pistol carbine should I buy?

[Dorian Gray]

Another vote for the Thureon. Got one in 9mm. Love it.

 

[Luis1]

I don't know what people are talking about with all the screws coming loose. The only one I had was te charging handle came loose after I reinstalled it. Some lock tight fixed that. I haven't applied lock tight to anything else during the 5000 rnds.

 

[Daddy]

My Thureon in 9mm lasted about one hundred rounds and then the tip broke off the firing pin. Currently waiting for a replacement. Pistol caliber carbines are a ton of fun to shoot, everybody should have one, at some point.

 

[Canadian_Zuk]

My Thureon in 9mm lasted about one hundred rounds and then the tip broke off the firing pin. Currently waiting for a replacement. Pistol caliber carbines are a ton of fun to shoot, everybody should have one, at some point.

Yeah, unfortunately there were a bad batch of pins from a vendor Thureon was using. They are well aware/embarrassed by it and will send you several replacements for free just for asking. I've had the same issue, they send free parts out faster than you can ask for them. I'm in Pickering, just east of Toronto. If you are somewhat local, I will give you one of my spare firing pins to use until your replacements arrive.

 

[Chargerguy]

I have a Zombie edition S2K with the quad rail. The thing functions flawlessly (round count 67, so not really a fair test) but the rail loosened up on me, no big deal, just needed loctite. I also bought a backup S2K and ran 250 rounds through it. It doesn't like the UMC 115s as much as the other. I'm pretty certain I'll be listing these two shortly and going with a Thureon based on the reviews. The S2Ks feel great, but I want to run an optic on it, rendering the folding function useless, which is all it really has going for it anyway. I sure prefer the look of the JR the most though. The Thureon upper looks like cheap plain sheet metal to me (but I've never viewed one in person).

 

[Daddy]

Yeah, unfortunately there were a bad batch of pins from a vendor Thureon was using. They are well aware/embarrassed by it and will send you several replacements for free just for asking. I've had the same issue, they send free parts out faster than you can ask for them. I'm in Pickering, just east of Toronto. If you are somewhat local, I will give you one of my spare firing pins to use until your replacements arrive.

I agree, a firing pin failure after 100 rounds indicates nothing more than a dud firing pin and hasn't soured me on the rifle at all. Guns are just a collection of parts and sometimes parts break. Thank you, I appreciate your kind offer, but I'm in Edmonton and my new pin will arrive any day.

 

[Daddy]

The Thureon upper looks like cheap plain sheet metal to me (but I've never viewed one in person).

From the Thureon Defense website

"Upper and lower receiver milled from aluminum bar stock"

 

[Chargerguy]

Thanks. I should have been a little more clear. I was just describing how it looked to me. I find the pics a little deceiving.

 

[Canadian_Zuk]

I'm at work and mine is in the truck, I'll go take some pics.

Edit: Pics added, don't hate on me for having a dirty gun it's well loved

Sorry for the crappy iphone pics, it's what was available for a fast reply. Honestly, there is nothing cheap, stamped or plastic on this gun except for the sights I added.

 

[Chargerguy]

Excellent pics. Looks well built.

 

[JTF#]

Hi point is the best value and best gun of the mix of pistol carbines.

 

[Canadian_Zuk]

Hi point is the best value and best gun of the mix of pistol carbines.

You didn't just say that with a straight face did you?

Hi Points are junky, ugly, plastic and restricted to boot. Plus I think the factory mags are pinned to 5 rounds are they not?

Other than being dirt cheap (you get what you pay for), what in your opinion makes them "best gun of the mix of pistol carbines"?

 

[cr5]

I own a sub2000 and have no complaints. You won't find one in Canada in .40 but since I don't like .40 that wasn't a problem for me. For the price and the fact that it can be folded and put into a backpack I don't think you can go wrong. It's only downfall is the sights but they do work well out to 50 yards and since it's a pistol carbine I don't care to shoot it beyond that anyway, if I want to shoot further I use an AR or something better suited.

They are all decent so just try to get your hands on each of them and buy whichever feels better to you.

 

[caramel]

My S-2000 is very reliable, the only thing, it is made dead cheap and very rough, no complaint about it shooting, it doesnt miss a beat... JP.

 

[JTF#]

cuz they are. try one some time. and they have 10 round mags that cost $18.99.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxw_Sm6kRRg

 

[The Kurgan]

If you want a trunk gun or something that you can tote around the field without worry, definitely the Kel-Tec sub2000. It weighs 4 pound stock and folds up... Yesterday, I shot out a 3 inch hole (150 rounds) at 50 yards using only the irons. Very accurate. Just to qualify caramel's comments... (he's used to premium rifles made of walnut and shiney blued steel), there's nothing really cheap about them... there's just lots of polymer parts. The barrel is made from ordinance steel, and while the bore certainly isn't match grade, they really shoot well. The only negative about this rifle is that it requires a good 200 to 500 rounds to break-in. Afterwards, flawless operation.

and when you're done, pack it in a laptop case:

 

[caramel]

No intention of putting the S-2000 down, i love mine, it is a shooter, just have to realized that for them to sell them at a low price (600.00) they have to give somewere... JP.

 

[pavmentsurfer]

I'm at work and mine is in the truck, I'll go take some pics.

Edit: Pics added, don't hate on me for having a dirty gun it's well loved

Sorry for the crappy iphone pics, it's what was available for a fast reply. Honestly, there is nothing cheap, stamped or plastic on this gun except for the sights I added.

These pics made me want to go shoot my TD... haha... its been sitting far too long. Im going to pick up 2000rnds of 9mm today so I should have enough to keep me rolling for a while.

 

[Ganderite]

I shoot a 9mm and 40 HiPoint.

They are restricted. I only shoot at ranges, so this is not an issue for me.. If you want a truck gun, a camp plinker, etc. they won't work in Canada.

They are heavy. For accurate shooting, this helps.

The triggers are easy to take apart and polish. The result is a a better trigger than the stock JR carbine.

I bought some Hi-Point pistol mags (10 rounds each) and they work just fine.

I have used the 40 in a CQB match it it did very well. It has some advantages. The bolt and action release can be run with the left hand. This has a good feature for modified prone when laying on your right side.

I have shot them in IDPA matches, too. The weight is an advantage when shooting very fast. Each has a flashlight and a laser and are my favourite carbines for lights out shoots.

Yes, it is ugly. But it put holes in the paper where I want them.

 

[kb007]

I have a JRC in .40 and I like it. Had 1 small problem with light strikes, JR replaced the firing pin and it's been rock solid ever since. I used Loctite on the lower screws, they have never come loose. The bolt handle screw gets just a little bit of Loctite and it stays in pretty good.