Tree stand thieves
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Sorry, I didn't mean to direct the comment towards you! I see now how that appeared to be so, my bad!!
I have known others to use that very excuse when stripping someone else's property, and found it aggravating to say the least. Two fellows I hunted with in the past (father and son) tore apart an older camper and took the 3-way fridge, propane range, heater and a few other main pieces then claimed they thought it was abandoned when confronted by me, haven't hunted with either of them since. I probably should have turned them in....but I can't really handle a snitch either, lol.
Again, my apologies for not paying attention to how my post could appear to others.
an empty tree stand interferes with your lawfull hunting practices? If that is the case then any unattended vehicle on crown land would fall under the same regulation..........even a hunting camp.
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Leaving a tree-stand on crown-land subtly implies ownership of that spot. Make sure its close to the road so everyone knows about it. Many decent people, and fine sportsmen will honor that claim, and those are the easiest people to screw over. Scatter a few around, and for a nominal amount you can practically stake out your own private game preserve. It is very cost effective way to hunt and if you lose one once in awhile who cares? Its much cheaper than taxes. It even has a side-benefit of giving the claim staker someone to call a prick instead of wondering deep down if he is being one himself.
1000 outfitters can't all be wrong.
The only fair way to manage tree stands on public land is to make it mandatory that they be taken down everyday or anyone can use it. Not many people would point out their spot if that meant someone could be sitting in it when they came back. Too hard to carry it out everyday? Leave it hidden in the bush, its probably less likely to be stolen than if it were displayed in a tree.
1000 outfitters can't all be wrong.The only fair way to manage tree stands on public land is to make it mandatory that they be taken down everyday or anyone can use it. Not many people would point out their spot if that meant someone could be sitting in it when they came back. Too hard to carry it out everyday? Leave it hidden in the bush, its probably less likely to be stolen than if it were displayed in a tree.
If I were using it to block a trail or road so someone else couldn't or wouldn't go past it, then I'd be fine with them dragging it into the bush and standing on the cab to use that for a stand.
blasted_saber
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Well even owing private land doesn’t keep people off or from doing something illegal. I remember the guy someone caught cutting trees off someone else’s property. He said he thought it was crown, well buddy it’s illegal to cut trees on crown land as well.
Below are two pictures of guys on ATV’s on my 60 acres. The land is posted very well, especially by ATV trails that are blocked by logs. My stand is not up but against a tree right by the trail they went by. Nothing was stolen when these pictures were taken this time.
Also at the back near a neighbours place by a swamp someone cut down a bunch of trees in the winter. I will be going back shortly with the OPP to see if someone stole the wood and left a good trial or have planted some pot.
License plate #. Real easy if you want to go further.
LordEvilPepper
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your wrong and missed my point. You can hunt his spot if he is not present, but you cannot interfere or use his stand. Placing that stand is a "preparatory activity" and you moving, tampering with or using it would prevent the owner from hunting or his/her enjoying the outdoors by ruining their hunting experience.
its the same with other activities. if you found someone bait trap and stand and used it to kill the bear that was coming round; regardless of whether it was crown or private, You would have interfered in a lawful hunt.
what this boils down to is if you spot a tree stand, someone has done prep work to make ready a location for hunting. If you can't find your own damn spot and need to poche someone elses location and gear in an attempt to shoot animals that another person has located and prepared to harvest; maybe you should find a new past time.
We were shoveling those back in twenty years ago. Seems some logging contractors thought that their cut entitled them to exclusive hunting rights on half a provincial forest. Then there's the outfitters that posted crownland, the no hunting- logging activity in area signs where there was no logging, the outfitters that put a baited stand at the beginning of every last cutline in the area then had his guides patrolling the area asking everyone to leave. An oat pile in the middle of the trail just seems so tacky. That last one was enough to make me cut fire-wood instead of hunting......................takes a lot of trips to drag a few sticks at a time up a trail, but you don't want to over work your quad or yourself if you're on foot. Bucking them up at the trail-head seems logical and you get to meet all sorts of interesting people. There was that thinly veiled threat about getting shot but after a few trips there shouldn't be any confusion. A chain saw is a bit loud but we all have to get along right? Yes sir, a mans got to know when he's beat.
I've fought this fight before, and am not going to lose it to the guy who thinks he bought the bush with a 100 dollar treestand.
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The regulation says shall not disturb a PERSON engaged in a lawful hunt or preparatory actions for a lawful hunt that will interfer with that hunt....that means if he is setting up his blind or tree stand I can't interfer with that process, however you can not claim public area for your personal and exclusive use because you have set up a stand and choose to leave it there unattended.
The fact that he has set up and left a stand in a area is interferring with me setting up a stand in that exact spot for my lawful hunt if I so choose to do so....its public land not private land....what is the big deal about removing your stand after you are finished your hunt?????
So let me get this straight.... You feel that just because you hang a tree stand that you can now lay claim to have your own hunting area and nobody else should use it? If you want your own hunting area and expect it to remain uninterfered with then the only way to do so is to buy your own land.... The laws around interfering with a lawful hunt are in regard to not causing a disturbance or intentionally ensuring that someone is unable to legally harvest game... they aren't in place to protect people who feel they can stake out a corner of bush as their own by strapping a stand to a tree... Wow... I can build a decent useable tree stand for under 60 bucks... just think of all of the land I could "own" with only a $300 dollar investment....
You couldn't shovel in the trenches even if you had a platoon of men and a week to do it but i digress, the point is being missed.We were shoveling those back in twenty years ago. Seems some logging contractors thought that their cut entitled them to exclusive hunting rights on half a provincial forest. Then there's the outfitters that posted crownland, the no hunting- logging activity in area signs where there was no logging, the outfitters that put a baited stand at the beginning of every last cutline in the area then had his guides patrolling the area asking everyone to leave. An oat pile in the middle of the trail just seems so tacky. That last one was enough to make me cut fire-wood instead of hunting......................takes a lot of trips to drag a few sticks at a time up a trail, but you don't want to over work your quad or yourself if you're on foot. Bucking them up at the trail-head seems logical and you get to meet all sorts of interesting people. There was that thinly veiled threat about getting shot but after a few trips there shouldn't be any confusion. A chain saw is a bit loud but we all have to get along right? Yes sir, a mans got to know when he's beat.
I've fought this fight before, and am not going to lose it to the guy who thinks he bought the bush with a 100 dollar treestand.
nobody owns the rights on crown land it is there for everyone to use equally, because someone leaves their personal property there for a day,week, month, hunting season, etc does not give anyone the right to just do with it as they please when the owner is not around. People thinking that someone "staked a claim" to the land because they see a treestand are the problem............If nobody is in it, how does it affect you? and if there is someone there it is no different than walking through the woods and stumblimg upon another hunter, we all hunt where the game are, it is pretty likely that if you know what you are doing out there, there are others that have come across the same game trails and hunt the same exact spots as you. I have been in very remote areas and seen other hunters miles from any vehicle access, an empty treestand would have been far less intrusive to stumble across than an actual person
I think the idea here is that because you see an empty treestand on crown land you don't need to help the guy out by destroying it or taking it with you, on that same token you can hunt right next to it if you wish it really doesn't matter if you are on crown land and you follow your provinces hunting regs. To me it really doesn't matter as I have had people run in to me in areas where i hunt and set up right there the next day at first light, it really doesn't bother me though as they are obviously not good hunters if all they do is follow others around hoping to get lucky, I have shot a lot of big game in front of people like that by just setting up a little ways away when they play those games.
It affects me when the treestand leaving hunter comes back and starts a whinefest about how he was there first (proof being the treestand that been there all season). This stuff has happened to me. The next move he has is to see who can out stubborn who. It will be him.
For the most part I hunt private land now, much of it my own. That's not without its problems, but there are less of them.
Let me throw this out there... This is my view, is it not the person that puts the treestand up and leaves it there that is interfering with everyone else's legal right to hunt that land?... If you are going to hunt crown, bring your stand with you daily, take it up and down, use a pop up blind or leave your tree stand there knowing you are on public land and anyone will be able to use it...
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he has to see you to be able to complain, wearing full camo has some advantages in these scenarios.
I have set up treestands and left them for weeks at a time but I remove my climbing sticks, if someone is already in that area where my stand is I am not going to disturb them or damage/remove their equipment and I would expect the same from someone seeing me or my property in the woods
