Chest Rigs and Mags for your Black Rifle

Wow. Just, wow.
How old is this clown?
Anyways, it actually doesn't even matter if you are a super fast elite, tactical operator without a chest rig. The fact is that a chest rig is a useful piece of gear, if used properly, and can allow you to be more effective.
Yeah, I don't doubt that Travis Haley could run circles around me in flip-flops, boxers and a wife-beater, with spare mags duct-taped to his ankles, even if I was wearing top of the line tactical nylon, but the point is that he (and I) would be faster with proper gear than without it.
 
Benito said:
Wow. Just, wow.
How old is this clown?
Anyways, it actually doesn't even matter if you are a super fast elite, tactical operator without a chest rig. The fact is that a chest rig is a useful piece of gear, if used properly, and can allow you to be more effective.
Yeah, I don't doubt that Travis Haley could run circles around me in flip-flops, boxers and a wife-beater, with spare mags duct-taped to his ankles, even if I was wearing top of the line tactical nylon, but the point is that he (and I) would be faster with proper gear than without it.
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Of course... They have a purpose. I have no need for that purpose... Use what ya need and run what ya brung.
 
I use a I.C.E. plate carrier with 6 mags (2x2x2) but I have it mounted quite low so that in prone position it rests in my stomach cavity rather than rib cage.
I also carry 1 mag on lower left rear of carrier (upsidedown,Fastmag pouch) for reload if I can't get to ones under me. The fastmag pouch has also been modified for more tension and I have not lost a mag yet.

On the belt I carry my pistol and mags along with provision for 2 more AR mags. My pistol holster has also been modified to sit slightly lower on my hip with a leg strap available for extra security. Its not a drop leg or traditional hip ride but somewhere in the middle. Thigh rigs suck for pistols and mags...I have seen mags and pistols come out of them resembling a nascar shrapnel shower.

All of my shooting pants have in pocket pouches incorperated for AR mags and pistol mags. I have only used them a couple times but seemed to work fine.

Only thing I would add as it has been mentioned before "train like you shoot". Enough crap goes wrong under stress without having to deal with gear issues that have not yet been worked out. No set-up is going to be perfect for all situations. Even if your gear has unresolvesd issues at least you know about them and can deal with accordingly.

I am no "pro" but have just found that you need to know your gear and its flaws.
 
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mikethebike said:
You know whats funny though, is I've seen some british contractors out in Iraq with an AK and only 3 or 4 ak mags in their jacket pockets and a pistol tucked into their belt with 2 mags in their pant pockets without even a holster, no chest rigs. Those brits are funny.
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It all depends on their role. If they're trying to keep it cool for CPD, they'll often do without the second line as they are expected to exfil with the principal, not actively engage X-rays.

-S.
 
I shot a service rifle match with bunch of cf guys this summer. before the match I went out and bought a nice mini chest rig. Then realized it was the stupidest purchase for service rifle considering I will be shooting prone a lot. and the rig/mags would be in the way and would cost me time reloading compared to running bladetech pouches on my belt like I normally do for tac rifle. I decided to take the rig back and was very glad I did. a bunch of the cf guys even said I was lucky to be able to compete while wearing minimal gear and comfy clothing, whilst they were being choked to death by their flak vests.
 
I run a belt rig. I hold 4 glock 33 rndrs for my JR on it, plus various other range safety items. It's also my bug out gear, so I keep it light. Any extra mags in that scenario would go in a backpack. Iv tried a chest rig multiple times and I keep going back to the belt rig. I find my sling gets caught up on the chest rigs to often.
 
Seafury said:
At the range I use 1 mag. I have never had a target rush me. I'm no hurry to erode the throats in my barrels.

If I see you at the range with a chest rig decked out with 10 X 5/30 round mag's I'm going to wonder if you are mentally fit to own a firearm. So will most other people. Try to be a positive role model for the hobby.
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Seafury said:
Been to service rifle matches. 3 X 5/20 round mags in my pocket worked fine. My comments are meant to remind you guys that people are watching. Try not to look like the Michigan Militia to the average population for all of our sakes.
Next time your out pretending your 10-22 is full auto realize how dumb it looks. Much like a lift kit and a skull on your window makes you look retarded.
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If this isn't trolling, then I don't know what it. Maybe it's about time some of the supposed mods enforce some rules. Who the hell let this fudd in here anyway?

For a Chest Rig I use a TT One Piece MAV with X-Harness, along with 4 double Rifle Taco's. For my belt I use a BFG SOC-C Modular Belt with Two Single Rifle Taco's, med kit, dump pouch, and pistol holster. This load out makes for a total of 10 magazines on my LBE, and 1 in the rifle for a total of 11 magazines.

If they were regular capacity magazines, I would probably change it to 4 single tacos on the chest, and 1 single taco on the belt. This load out makes for 5 magazines on the LBE and one in the rifle for a total of 6 magazines.

There are degree's of load out though, I would say a regular LEO with a rifle shouldn't normally need more than one or two magazines, where as a ERT officer may need 5-6 mags. Then there are the front line soldiers who want 10-12 mags, and then there are the high speed spec ops guys who run as few as 3-4 depending on mission outline. It's a toolbox, pick the tools for the job/mission.

I make a point of wearing some, if not all of my kit when the fudds are around because of the dirty looks they give. Of course if I'm at the range it's for a purpose, so I always have my kit with me when I'm shooting. Now that I hear SeaFury over hear thinks we look like the "Michigan Militia" I know we're doing something right ;) Is this guy for real?

Black rifle's and action/tactical shooting with those black rifle's and appropriate LBE is the new age. It's drawing lots of new people to the sport and building our community into something greater. I am so sick and tired of this BS attitude that suggests the range is for fudds only. If your not a fudd, and refuse to shoot like a fudd, then you'll draw negative attention to the club, your dangerous, if you use LBE on the range, then you must be bat shiit crazy, and definitely mentally unfit to own a firearm, so........ultimately, you shouldn't shoot here, because we we want to keep it for ourselves.

Well to all the fudds out there: Black Rifles, and Tactical shooting are the new age, it's whats going to keep out sport and the firearms community overall growing into something greater, and with more young people jumping on board everyday the more accepted our sport is becoming and the better it will be for all of us in the future. Especially in Canada. If you want to sit around the bench with a semi auto rifle and take one shot every 5 minutes through your single 5 round mag then that's fine by me, and if you want to run a service rifle match with mags falling out of your pocket, looking like a complete retarded moron, then that's fine by me too, but don't knock others for training in a practical, efficient, safe manor, with the kit necessary to make that training more effective and more fun, because it scares you. This new style of shooting is the future, either join the club and climb on board, or prepare to get left behind in the dust with your daddies single shot cooey.
 
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So, back on subject: where do I get one of these tactical magazine buckets?

I'd like to see what a few fella's that fought overseas recommend, and why. The whole keeping your front fairly clear to accommodate going prone makes sense to me. Please go on.
pics please.
 
Seafury said:
Been to service rifle matches. 3 X 5/20 round mags in my pocket worked fine. My comments are meant to remind you guys that people are watching. Try not to look like the Michigan Militia to the average population for all of our sakes.
Next time your out pretending your 10-22 is full auto realize how dumb it looks. Much like a lift kit and a skull on your window makes you look retarded.
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I doubt we're talking about the same service rifle matches.
 
Here's a question for the experts: mags pointed up, diagonal, horizontal, or pointed at the ground? Or something else?

Maybe it's just me, but I like the idea of mags tilted to about 10/2 o'clock, and positioned a bit more off to the sides rather than right in front. I'm still waiting for some proper mag pouches though, which will probably require some modification.

I'm just a bedroom ninja though, so for the people who actually know what they're doing, do you keep your mags front and center pointed up? Why, just because that's how it is?
 
Stevebot-7 said:
Here's a question for the experts: mags pointed up, diagonal, horizontal, or pointed at the ground? Or something else?

Maybe it's just me, but I like the idea of mags tilted to about 10/2 o'clock, and positioned a bit more off to the sides rather than right in front. I'm still waiting for some proper mag pouches though, which will probably require some modification.

I'm just a bedroom ninja though, so for the people who actually know what they're doing, do you keep your mags front and center pointed up? Why, just because that's how it is?
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I'm no expert so maybe my opinion isn't worth a damn ;) but I run my mags feed lips and ammo down, this way when you grab the magazine your already gripping the bottom of the magazine. Look for a solid beer can grip on the bottom third of the magazine. I don't recall seeing anyone ever run mags with rounds up.
 
Now that we are back on track...

I prefer ammo down, pointed to the right.

Uses the same muscle memory as with pistol reloads, pointy finger straight along the forward edge/mags grasped from the bottom. That way I'm not relearning any motor skills, its pretty much the same for both.
 
I don't compete, just against buddies in the bush.
I use a modular belt I got surplus, with 2 double Tactical Tailor pouches. I use pistol mags with ranger plates and have shimmed the pouches so the mags ride higher. Ammo down, pointed clockwise around me.
I have a Maxpedition Mini Rollypoly for a dump pouch. It's the perfect size for 6 LAR mags.

The belt works well for me, I've never tried a chest rig though.
I'm too old to hit the dirt so I'm ok either way :).
 
This is a great thread as I am currently shopping for a setup. If only you could walk into a store and have a look/try on all this awesome gear. My biggest fear is getting something that does not fit right or I end up hating it.
 
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