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I don't have a Savage , but I've got a 700 police 308 that's been more than good to me. Just left the general forum and now I'm asking.
Who's the champ in 223-308 for the money??
 
There are many more Remington owners than Savage owners so getting a clear answer is difficult.

I have only owned 1 .308 precision rifle which I bought 2 years ago.
It is a Savage 10BA. I have nearly 2,000 rounds down the pipe now and I went to the precision rifle clinic put on by Tactical Teacher AKA Hungry and hosted by chalkriver at CFB Petawawa this past weekend.

These were my cold bore 5 shot sighters at 100Y
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These were my 500y targets off a bipod in the prone position.
Targets were exposed for 3 seconds at a time.
5 times each.
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You won't be disappointed with either of them.

Both factories will produce the odd lemon but for the most part its a good time to be a shooter.

However if you want to be a serious precision shooter a factory gun is just the platform to begin with. Barrel, trigger and bedding are needed. (optics and load development also but they are independent of the gun)


If you are a gunsmith or have a buddy who is then the Remington can be taken a long ways with all the accessories and customizations available. Its a proven platform.

If you like to do your own smithing then the Savage is the way to go. Ability to swap your own barrel and the floating bolt head will get you 95% of all possible accuracy with your own hand tools.

Just my thoughts
 
You won't be disappointed with either of them.

Both factories will produce the odd lemon but for the most part its a good time to be a shooter.

However if you want to be a serious precision shooter a factory gun is just the platform to begin with. Barrel, trigger and bedding are needed. (optics and load development also but they are independent of the gun)


If you are a gunsmith or have a buddy who is then the Remington can be taken a long ways with all the accessories and customizations available. Its a proven platform.

If you like to do your own smithing then the Savage is the way to go. Ability to swap your own barrel and the floating bolt head will get you 95% of all possible accuracy with your own hand tools.

Just my thoughts

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Both good platform. I went with a Rem 700 5R. One of my shooting buddy went with a Savage FTR. Which one's the best? It's Damn close...can't tell. I'm impressed by the FTR and he's impress by the 5R. If you compare a Rem 700 SPS with a Savage FTR, the FTR Will be a better gun out of the box, but it cost double. Around the same price, you will have similar results. They will both have things you won't like and things you like. Buy the one who fits you the best...
 
The only negative thing I have to say about modern Remington rifles is the very long leede to the rifling.
One shooter this weekend put 6 shots onto a 3" marker at 600Y With the modified Remington 5R Milspec.
 
I've had quite a few Savages, and they have all been great shooters, from the Axis and rimfires I had, up to the higher end models. I've never owned a 700, but I realize they both have their bonuses. I'm starting a build, and I decided to go with a Stevens 200 to start off of, because I like the ability to do the work myself. The 700's have more aftermarket support, but there is quite a good selection as is for the Savages, and it's only getting better.
 
Got them both. Love them both. Now for competitions I am running the platform with the proven track record. This is not to say that any of my savages have failed in any way, just that everyone knows a thing or two about the 700 action, and if a snag is hit, help via other competitors or gunsmith support is readily on hand
 
I don't think one is better than the other. I find the Savages to be a little uglier, some are a little stiffer to operate, and the stocks in the past left alot to be disired. As for the Remington's, I've seen a few more duds, the finish on some of their lower end models isn't great, the lower end stocks aren't great but better than Savage's tupperware, the detachable mag system is sparace and Savage's is a little nicer, barrels require a gunsmith to change, and headspacing is not as accurate. The accu-trigger is awesome, but only if you like accu-triggers. I happen to like a 6 ounce trigger that doesn't go off on its own and kill the neighbours cat, and the accu-trigger does a good job of not doing that, and cats everywhere are thankful. Now that comment isn't implying that Remington's triggers aren't safe, but more or less saying all extremely light triggers can be dangerous in field guns.

If I were to buy a 223 or a 308 at this very moment? I'd build one from the ground up
 
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