Considering a foray into the world of plastic pistols

Plastic pistols are shooters, not collector items, IMO. Try before you buy, fit and feel vary greatly.

+1 on the CZ plastic pistol recommendation. I found the fit and ergos on these are very very nice, but it depends on your preference.
 
Clotho said:
That's nice.

In 100 years my 1873 St Etienne revolver will probably still function. I wouldn't be so sure about an M&P9. If it is still whole you probably wouldn't want to shoot it due to plastic embrittlement or some other deficiency put there on purpose by the engineers.

To many people this won't matter because they won't be here but it matters to me. The reason I'm interested in firearms is because my father collected them and they will be handed down to me someday. I look forward to passing them on when it comes my turn.

I'm glad you like your polymer pistol. They just aren't my cup of tea.
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The reason your 1873 St. Etienne revolver will still be functional in 100 years is because it won't have had tens of thousands of rounds run through it. The current crop of plastic bullet-launching appliances typically hold up better to high round counts compared with many of the legacy designs. Until recently, few handguns were shot a lot and hence were designed for lower durability expectations.

I think it's OK to like the old stuff for what it is for one's own subjective reasons (I do it myself), but at the same time I acknowledge that the new stuff is an objective improvement in many ways.
 
if you are looking at a m&p40 check out irunguns.ca right now... they have them for $499 with about $20 shipping and 5% tax .. no other shop in canada is even close to that. its just the gun and 2 mags.. not the range and carry kit.
just ordered one.

as for steel vs plastic..
ive got both, honestly i love plastic guns, but i shoot way better with the heavier steel frame pistols.
i can take my glock and keep on target all day, with a couple hits touching.. i grab my CZ and it just feels effortless....almost like im cheating..shooting clovers, knocking down the steel very fast and quicker target acquisition....sights? definitely..glock sights are crap, if i keep it im upgrading them soon...grip angle? trigger? gun weight? i dont know, probably a combination of all of the above, but there is just something about the plastic guns i like.
i think i going to sell my glock and grab a new walther ppq navy though...there will always be glocks around, ive seen really old ones all over and still shooting. im sure the plastic will break down eventually even if it was just sitting in the safe.
 
MauserMike said:
I'm really liking the Grand Power K100 I was given. Fits like a glove, WAAAAAY nicer trigger than Glock.

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Really starting to like this one. Are parts easy to get?
 
I like my XD 9mm. It was first handgun I bought once I could legally buy down here in AZ. I looked at Glocks when shopping around but chose XD because I prefer the 1911 style grip angle (probably because of my time with Canadian Inglis version of Browning Hi-Power).

I have used my XD9 for personal carry (including some rough use open carry while backpacking). Shot USPSA with it (Limited division) - never any issues and always functioned 100%. Last few years I've used it less because been shooting SR1911 for competition and because last year I bought the XDs in 45 for carry. So XD is now mostly for home defense. Also been happy with the XDs, was sorry to send it in for recall two weeks ago, but sheet happens and I am impressed that Springfield recognized an issue and is making it right as best they can. Anyhow, doubt the XDs is of much interest in Canada because its raison d'etre is CCW.

Back to OP's question - go for it, poly guns can be great if you pick one that fits you well and you shoot well. Best advise would be to try whatever models you can.
 
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Had a cz shadow, bought a glock 17,couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, sold the shadow! Polymer will definitely show up bad fundamentals ( guilty as charged!). Polymer guns feel like you can scuff 'em up a bit and its ok.
 
So for those that have shot both, Glock or M&P? I doubt I can get my hands on a Springfield to feel one up, variety is a bit limited here in the 'Peg. Never mind the Steyr.

Accessories won't be that important to me, looking for something shootable out of the box. To me that's more of a test of a decent product.
 
I have Glock and M&P (9 and 40). The M&P 40 came with a trigger that was better than I expected, but Apex parts were already ordered. Apex makes it a real good trigger.

M&P is more comfortable and I do better with it than any other pistol I own (about 100 of them) in IDPA and CQB.
 
Shanks4300 said:
So for those that have shot both, Glock or M&P? I doubt I can get my hands on a Springfield to feel one up, variety is a bit limited here in the 'Peg. Never mind the Steyr.

Accessories won't be that important to me, looking for something shootable out of the box. To me that's more of a test of a decent product.
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I own a g19 and a m&p9.
They're very similar in the fact that they're both boringly reliable. Mine just work, always.

Accuracy wise, same deal. They're both as accurate as the shooter holding them, and they'll both shoot low-left for someone who snatches at the trigger. Both can hit a 2" target at 20m in my hands, and surely much tighter in better hands.

I prefer glock triggers for their amount of feel both at the wall, and at the reset.
I prefer working on glocks, and I prefer the grip angle as it puts a bit more force on locking bones into position.

The m&p has a nicer feel in the shape of the grip, but when you squeeze the way you're suppose to, the glock has the edge on friction, which equals recoil management.


I've never shot an xd, but don't plan to either. I've read varying reviews on their quality, but my real issue lies in their copying glocks safe-action trigger(which promotes responsible gun handling), and then they go add a useless secondary safety to the grip.
Pistols have holsters to protect their triggers while loaded and not in use, and I have a brain attached to my trigger finger.
 
I'm a total newb, got a sig229 9mm (good luck finding one by the way), I was looking at hk as well, good reputation. Bare in mind if ya get a plastic fantastic that changes back straps or whatnot the fit can be worked on. Sig's got a polymer as well, albeit not that popular with the sig fellas from what I've read(Internet tells no lies, I guess).

Good luck,

RM
 
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