Glock safety

[Seven65]

Hi there, I'm new to glocks and just did some upgrades to my glock 22. I just got everything back together and found that when I press the trigger and release it without firing the safety gets stuck and doesn't return to where it should and is disabled until you follow through with the trigger pull and it's recocked, I don't remember this happening before I screwed with it.

Mods:

Lone Wolf 3.5lb connector
6lb trigger spring
4lb striker spring
Extended magazine release
Extended slide release
Recoil Buffer
25 cent trigger job (with a cloth not a rotory tool)

I don't know if maybe I under or over lubed something or if it's something with the new springs or what. If anyone knows how I could fix this I'd appreciate the help thanks.

Ross

 

[metcalfe]

The only time I hear about glocks not working is after people throw a bunch of parts at them.

You may not like this, but one way to fix it would be putting it back the way glock made it.

There is an ongoing discussion regarding fit/fundamentals here.
What were you trying to acheieve with the aftermarket parts?

 

[Onagoth]

The only time I hear about glocks not working is after people throw a bunch of parts at them.

You may not like this, but one way to fix it would be putting it back the way glock made it.

There is an ongoing discussion regarding fit/fundamentals here.
What were you trying to acheieve with the aftermarket parts?

I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through my glocks, and I'll tell you right now, fit and fundamentals are great, but upgrades get definitely improve anyone's results. All my glocks get aftermarket triggers and sights. If someone offered you a handgun with an 8lb trigger or 2.5 lb trigger, which would you take? Also, I've had zero reliability issues with my glocks after making the upgrades.


to the OP, go back to the stock trigger spring (i've found the aftermarket ones can either mess up the trigger or make it fell very mushy). Also be aware with the 4lb FP spring, you will likely want the extended firing pin to avoid any light strikes. I don't think the recoil buffer is of any use. You'd be better off with heavy ammo and a lighter recoil spring.

 

[novega]

At the risk of sounding like a dummy, are we talking trigger safety, drop safety or striker safety?

 

[silverfoxdj]

Hi there, I'm new to glocks and just did some upgrades to my glock 22. I just got everything back together and found that when I press the trigger and release it without firing the safety gets stuck and doesn't return to where it should and is disabled until you follow through with the trigger pull and it's recocked, I don't remember this happening before I screwed with it.

Mods:

Lone Wolf 3.5lb connector
6lb trigger spring
4lb striker spring
Extended magazine release
Extended slide release
Recoil Buffer
25 cent trigger job (with a cloth not a rotory tool)

I don't know if maybe I under or over lubed something or if it's something with the new springs or what. If anyone knows how I could fix this I'd appreciate the help thanks.

Ross

Edit: typo in the title, don't think I can fix it.

Edit in advanced mode..

 

[Poochy]

Tough to say... I assume that you are talking about the trigger safety and that it doesn't pop back out when you release the trigger? The other two safety features are pretty hard to make malfunction. Without actually seeing it, I would say field strip the pistol, work the trigger safety and see if anything is binding where the trigger comes through the frame/receiver...

Idle curiosity... Why are you pressing the trigger without releasing the striker?

 

[metcalfe]

I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through my glocks, and I'll tell you right now, fit and fundamentals are great, but upgrades get definitely improve anyone's results. All my glocks get aftermarket triggers and sights. If someone offered you a handgun with an 8lb trigger or 2.5 lb trigger, which would you take? Also, I've had zero reliability issues with my glocks after making the upgrades.


to the OP, go back to the stock trigger spring (i've found the aftermarket ones can either mess up the trigger or make it fell very mushy). Also be aware with the 4lb FP spring, you will likely want the extended firing pin to avoid any light strikes. I don't think the recoil buffer is of any use. You'd be better off with heavy ammo and a lighter recoil spring.

8lbs.

5.5 works well for me and 2.5 feels too much like a PlayStation controller.

 

[sigboy]

You need training not all the springs….lol
Just take it all apart and reinstall. Most of the times that will fix it.

 

[Seven65]

The only time I hear about glocks not working is after people throw a bunch of parts at them.

You may not like this, but one way to fix it would be putting it back the way glock made it.

There is an ongoing discussion regarding fit/fundamentals here.
What were you trying to acheieve with the aftermarket parts?

I just didn't like the trigger at all, it was gritty and heavy. It's WAY better now but the lever for the saftey gets stuck if I don't follow through with my trigger pull. Even though I don't care if it has a safety at all, because I know how to not shoot things I don't want shot, having a safety and it not functioning properly is frowned upon. Also I have small hands and the extended controls are more comfortable for me, the same way someone with long arms might pad the back of a rifle.

I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through my glocks, and I'll tell you right now, fit and fundamentals are great, but upgrades get definitely improve anyone's results. All my glocks get aftermarket triggers and sights. If someone offered you a handgun with an 8lb trigger or 2.5 lb trigger, which would you take? Also, I've had zero reliability issues with my glocks after making the upgrades.


to the OP, go back to the stock trigger spring (i've found the aftermarket ones can either mess up the trigger or make it fell very mushy). Also be aware with the 4lb FP spring, you will likely want the extended firing pin to avoid any light strikes. I don't think the recoil buffer is of any use. You'd be better off with heavy ammo and a lighter recoil spring.

Thanks, I'll try taking the trigger spring out.

And thanks for the info on the 4lb spring, I'll change it out or get an extended pin if I start getting light strikes.

Would the recoil buffer cause any problem? I have it already and I've seen comparisons that show it reduces wear, I don't care about the supposed felt recoil difference.

At the risk of sounding like a dummy, are we talking trigger safety, drop safety or striker safety?

The actual lever built into the trigger is not resetting if I don't follow through with my trigger pull making it so that if I half pull it then let it go I can pull the trigger with the side of the trigger not touching the safety lever.

Edit in advanced mode..

Thanks

Tough to say... I assume that you are talking about the trigger safety and that it doesn't pop back out when you release the trigger? The other two safety features are pretty hard to make malfunction. Without actually seeing it, I would say field strip the pistol, work the trigger safety and see if anything is binding where the trigger comes through the frame/receiver...

Idle curiosity... Why are you pressing the trigger without releasing the striker?

There is binding of the lip of the safety lever against the frame, I just don't know how to fix it, I'm going to try swapping the trigger spring back to stock as previously suggested.

To satisfy your curiosity, I was testing it out after putting it back together and noticed it.

You need training not all the springs….lol
Just take it all apart and reinstall. Most of the times that will fix it.

I shoot for enjoyment, I don't enjoy the stock trigger at all. I would rather not spend the time/ammo "training" myself to like something I don't like. I would rather spend that time/ammo shooting with a smoother lighter trigger. I don't think that's "lol" worthy or unreasonable.

 

[DiM]

I shoot for enjoyment, I don't enjoy the stock trigger at all. I would rather not spend the time/ammo "training" myself to like something I don't like. I would rather spend that time/ammo shooting with a smoother lighter trigger. I don't think that's "lol" worthy or unreasonable.

CGN is a weird place. A lot of people seem to forget that there are shooters here who don't compete and who aren't Leo/CF. As long as the person is having fun and enjoys the money they've spent on their guns then I don't see why we should beat people up for modding their Glock or slapping on a tactical stock on a 10/22. Although I never see anyone getting chastised for putting on night sights...

 

[skip1600]

Maybe a stupid question but are you sure your trigger return spring is square in its groove?

Also I'm with you, I like to mess with guns, changing parts till I have something I really like.. Never do anything destructive and always make sure its reversible.. These aren't military collectibles or pieces of history so I don't know why people take it so personally that you want to mess with your gun.

Lastly ... Do you find any difference with the recoil buffer .. Kinda wanna try one but don't wanna waste my money if it does nothing

 

[Seven65]

Maybe a stupid question but are you sure your trigger return spring is square in its groove?

Also I'm with you, I like to mess with guns, changing parts till I have something I really like.. Never do anything destructive and always make sure its reversible.. These aren't military collectibles or pieces of history so I don't know why people take it so personally that you want to mess with your gun.

Lastly ... Do you find any difference with the recoil buffer .. Kinda wanna try one but don't wanna waste my money if it does nothing

I'll double check that.

As for the recoil buffer I just bought it because I read it can reduce wear on your frame, and have seen pics of with and without that seemed to back that up. I don't know about felt recoil, I haven't fired it yet, I found the issue after I put it back together and tested the trigger. I don't intend on bringing it to the range until it's in full working order.

 

[TDC]

The only time I hear about glocks not working is after people throw a bunch of parts at them.

You may not like this, but one way to fix it would be putting it back the way glock made it.

There is an ongoing discussion regarding fit/fundamentals here.
What were you trying to acheieve with the aftermarket parts?

I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through my glocks, and I'll tell you right now, fit and fundamentals are great, but upgrades get definitely improve anyone's results. All my glocks get aftermarket triggers and sights. If someone offered you a handgun with an 8lb trigger or 2.5 lb trigger, which would you take? Also, I've had zero reliability issues with my glocks after making the upgrades.


to the OP, go back to the stock trigger spring (i've found the aftermarket ones can either mess up the trigger or make it fell very mushy). Also be aware with the 4lb FP spring, you will likely want the extended firing pin to avoid any light strikes. I don't think the recoil buffer is of any use. You'd be better off with heavy ammo and a lighter recoil spring.

Strange, you champion aftermarket mods, then go on to say that you've found that they screw up the gun and induce light strikes. Its almost like metcalfe JUST posted about how most failures with Glocks occur when the owner adds a bunch of cr@p to them that is not OEM and more importantly not necessary. I hate to burst your bubble, but mods will only cover up your lack of fundamentals so much, and its not much at all. A firm grasp of the fundamentals will pay off far greater rewards than altering a stock trigger because you(again, no one in particular) have no clue how to manipulate the trigger or work the reset to achieve better results.

I just didn't like the trigger at all, it was gritty and heavy. It's WAY better now but the lever for the saftey gets stuck if I don't follow through with my trigger pull. Even though I don't care if it has a safety at all, because I know how to not shoot things I don't want shot, having a safety and it not functioning properly is frowned upon. Also I have small hands and the extended controls are more comfortable for me, the same way someone with long arms might pad the back of a rifle.




Thanks, I'll try taking the trigger spring out.

And thanks for the info on the 4lb spring, I'll change it out or get an extended pin if I start getting light strikes.

Would the recoil buffer cause any problem? I have it already and I've seen comparisons that show it reduces wear, I don't care about the supposed felt recoil difference.


The actual lever built into the trigger is not resetting if I don't follow through with my trigger pull making it so that if I half pull it then let it go I can pull the trigger with the side of the trigger not touching the safety lever.

Thanks

There is binding of the lip of the safety lever against the frame, I just don't know how to fix it, I'm going to try swapping the trigger spring back to stock as previously suggested.

To satisfy your curiosity, I was testing it out after putting it back together and noticed it.

I shoot for enjoyment, I don't enjoy the stock trigger at all. I would rather not spend the time/ammo "training" myself to like something I don't like. I would rather spend that time/ammo shooting with a smoother lighter trigger. I don't think that's "lol" worthy or unreasonable.

Read my response above to Onagoth's post. Your dislike of the stock trigger is the same as all the others, its due to a lack of fundamentals. As for the trigger spring I'm not sure which spring you're talking about? If its the "s" shaped one housed in the rear of the receiver that attaches to the rear of the trigger bar. Changing that back to stock will have zero effect on trigger safety not protruding as designed. I'm not entirely sure why your trigger safety is not functioning properly.

CGN is a weird place. A lot of people seem to forget that there are shooters here who don't compete and who aren't Leo/CF. As long as the person is having fun and enjoys the money they've spent on their guns then I don't see why we should beat people up for modding their Glock or slapping on a tactical stock on a 10/22. Although I never see anyone getting chastised for putting on night sights...

Compete, train, serve, or plink, performance is the goal for all of us. That is to say consistent on demand accurate placement of rounds. Fundamentals are fundamentals, they apply to all disciplines and all styles of firearms, hence the term fundamental. Modifying gear in an attempt to gain an edge is usually misguided. A lot of the mods offer minimal returns and will go unnoticed by the masses who don't know or can't demonstrate the fundamentals. The recoil buffer mentioned above is one of those mods that offers near zero return, its useless.

TDC

 

[Seven65]

I didn't modify the trigger to gain an edge on anything, I just didn't like the way it felt and now I do.

The same way the majority of people you see with aftermarket rims on their car aren't looking to add milliseconds to lap times, they just like them better than the stock hub caps.

I put all terrain tires on my work van, I guess I should have bought another set of bridgestones that gm put on it originally.

Put some tread down on my front stairs, but they were prob built better originally should have left them as is.

 

[TDC]

I didn't modify the trigger to gain an edge on anything, I just didn't like the way it felt and now I do.

The same way the majority of people you see with aftermarket rims on their car aren't looking to add milliseconds to lap times, they just like them better than the stock hub caps.

I put all terrain tires on my work van, I guess I should have bought another set of bridgestones that gm put on it originally.

Put some tread down on my front stairs, but they were prob built better originally should have left them as is.

So you're more concerned with "feel" than performance???

TDC

 

[skip1600]

Try switching the trigger return spring to stock.. I believe the heavier spring is pulling too hard on the bar and causing the trigger to be too weighted to reset the safety... Your trigger pull will increase but not be sloppy

If that doesn't work take the spring completely out. Hold the trigger and rack the slide to let the trigger reset and see if it does it without it, then just work your way back removing one part after another and putting the stock ones in and see which one is defective, but I really think its going to be the trigger return

 

[Trigun]

Hi there, I'm new to glocks and just did some upgrades to my glock 22. I just got everything back together and found that when I press the trigger and release it without firing the safety gets stuck and doesn't return to where it should and is disabled until you follow through with the trigger pull and it's recocked, I don't remember this happening before I screwed with it.

Mods:

Lone Wolf 3.5lb connector
6lb trigger spring
4lb striker spring
Extended magazine release
Extended slide release
Recoil Buffer
25 cent trigger job (with a cloth not a rotory tool)

I don't know if maybe I under or over lubed something or if it's something with the new springs or what. If anyone knows how I could fix this I'd appreciate the help thanks.

Ross

Glock trigger spring has direction, reverse direction result trigger failure, there are youtube video show how to put it together.

Trigun

 

[Seven65]

So you're more concerned with "feel" than performance???

TDC

Bottom line is, if I don't enjoy shooting it I'm not going to shoot it. I don't get why that's such a hard concept. A lighter trigger isn't going to make me shoot poorly either, the fact that I have to tweak something I have modified
before it works properly is trivial to me, I fix things for a living.

 

[Seven65]

Pulled out the aftermarket springs and it fixed it. The trigger return spring wasn't causing enough tension to reset the safety lever if not fully pulled. It's a little heavier than it was with the spring but with the 3.5 lbs connector it's still WAY better than the stock trigger.

Thanks guys.

 

[Onagoth]

Strange, you champion aftermarket mods, then go on to say that you've found that they screw up the gun and induce light strikes. Its almost like metcalfe JUST posted about how most failures with Glocks occur when the owner adds a bunch of cr@p to them that is not OEM and more importantly not necessary. I hate to burst your bubble, but mods will only cover up your lack of fundamentals so much, and its not much at all. A firm grasp of the fundamentals will pay off far greater rewards than altering a stock trigger because you(again, no one in particular) have no clue how to manipulate the trigger or work the reset to achieve better results.
TDC

I don't champion anything dude.....and I never said they are more important than fundamentals. I said virtually everyone can benefit from a better trigger and eventually serious shooters will opt to improve on what they have.

But hey, if you wanna put words in my mouth to perpetuate the same old dogma, go right ahead. I don't think you've ever seen me shoot, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion I am lacking in fundamentals. Must be another truth brought to CGN by TDC

And I hate to burst your "stock glock" bubble, but even a glock with only OEM parts can fail, just like any other gun.