IWI Tavor owners...Yay or Nay???
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SwL_Wildcat
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Use 3rd gen pmags or emags. The emags have a larger notch in the back and are a bit thinner, they are the "recommended" mag for the H&K and Tavor, as well as a coupe others.
Cons? To put it mildly, the trigger SUCKS! It's way heavy and has a horrible break.
When shooting the Tavor your face is right over the action and a lot of gasses are drifting up into your face. I never have watery eyes unless I am shooting a Tavor.
I HIGHLY recommend finding someone that has a Tavor and ask them if you can run a few mags through it before you toss down a pile of cash.
IMHO opinion a XCR is a much better gun for the money.
I own a tavor gen 2 with an elcan spectr dr, here's what i can say after about 800 rounds through it:
Cons:
1st: Ammo: you need some hot ammo in this rifle, something over 3000fps otherwise it just opens up way too much at 100. I find when I'm shooting 3200fps55grain I'm running a 2 moa group at 100 yards, weak 2800 fps 55 grain I'm at 6 moa, heavy 69 grain sierra match king i'm at 4 moa.
2nd: Trigger: yes the trigger definitely needs some work, maybe a trigger pack will be available in the future, theres the spring trick, but I don't like messing around with a rifle like that. It's a military assault rifle, I don't care what people say, that spring is absolutely there for a reason.
3rd: Prone or bench: Bench shooting is a bit awkward, I keep hitting the bolt release latch.
4th: MONEY: price, 2700$ for at best a 2moa rifle, a bit tough for the ordinary joe.
5th: Aesthetics: looks weird (if looks are important to you when slugging lead down range, for me looks are only important when it comes to my women, but hey seems like some guys like to have ### with their rifles so...)
6th: Mods: After market or 3rd party parts are pretty much non-existant. It does have 2 rails, so optics and essentials are not an issue, but if you want to Rambo up on tacticool, it's not for you.
7th: Recoil: yep you'll feel that recoil a bit more than on an AR, feels like you're shooting 7.62x39 instead of 5.56x45
8th: Fast shooting: Just couldn't really get the handle of it, trigger doesn't really allow for it with it's 12 pounds pull.
Pros:
1st: Classification: Non restricted
2nd: Balance: Weight distribution is absolutely awesome, feels like you're running something that weighs a third of it's weight
3rd: Hold and target acquisition: Very easy and fast to hold steady if you use the israeli grip (forearm of supporting hand leaning on handle), I suggest strongly sighting in at 50 yards, makes 100 yards easier. Just have to remember to shoot a little higher when at 25. .
4th: Action: Reliable heavy piston driven, bolt doesn't get dirty much
5th: Cleaning: extremely easy to field strip, 20 seconds to disassemble and put back together. Full strip gets a little tricky with the firing pin (if it's the spring mounted one), but once you get the hang of it it's ok.
6th: Reliability: Built to withstand a lot of abuse in its ordinary use, it was built for amphibious beach landings (Salty sea water, sand)
7th: Power: 18.5 inch barrel on a 1/7 rifle that is shorter and easier to handle than a 16 inch 1/8 barrel AR
8th: Shoulder: long length of pull, I'm 6.2 with long arms, lop is important for me!
9th: FTF, FTE, Stove pipes, light strikes, whatevers: Not one single malfunction in 800 rounds, but the casings have a very little slight indentation in them and the neck is flat on one end, could be the brass deflector, but I'm not sure, the indentation is on the same vertical line as the flat neck, maybe the extractor? I dunno, I need to research.
10th: Lefties: Fully ambidextrous, safety, ejections (my wife is a lefty, it's important for me)
For me it was a sure thing, I just had to get one. I was considering the xcr till the point where I put the XCR to my shoulder, lop was actually shorter on the XCR with stock fully extended than the Tavor Bullpup! Imagine that! XCR just felt really flimsy and cheap, (just my opinion guys, it doesn't mean it is, I just felt like it was)
Cons:
1st: Ammo: you need some hot ammo in this rifle, something over 3000fps otherwise it just opens up way too much at 100. I find when I'm shooting 3200fps55grain I'm running a 2 moa group at 100 yards, weak 2800 fps 55 grain I'm at 6 moa, heavy 69 grain sierra match king i'm at 4 moa.
2nd: Trigger: yes the trigger definitely needs some work, maybe a trigger pack will be available in the future, theres the spring trick, but I don't like messing around with a rifle like that. It's a military assault rifle, I don't care what people say, that spring is absolutely there for a reason.
3rd: Prone or bench: Bench shooting is a bit awkward, I keep hitting the bolt release latch.
4th: MONEY: price, 2700$ for at best a 2moa rifle, a bit tough for the ordinary joe.
5th: Aesthetics: looks weird (if looks are important to you when slugging lead down range, for me looks are only important when it comes to my women, but hey seems like some guys like to have ### with their rifles so...)
6th: Mods: After market or 3rd party parts are pretty much non-existant. It does have 2 rails, so optics and essentials are not an issue, but if you want to Rambo up on tacticool, it's not for you.
7th: Recoil: yep you'll feel that recoil a bit more than on an AR, feels like you're shooting 7.62x39 instead of 5.56x45
8th: Fast shooting: Just couldn't really get the handle of it, trigger doesn't really allow for it with it's 12 pounds pull.
Pros:
1st: Classification: Non restricted
2nd: Balance: Weight distribution is absolutely awesome, feels like you're running something that weighs a third of it's weight
3rd: Hold and target acquisition: Very easy and fast to hold steady if you use the israeli grip (forearm of supporting hand leaning on handle), I suggest strongly sighting in at 50 yards, makes 100 yards easier. Just have to remember to shoot a little higher when at 25. .
4th: Action: Reliable heavy piston driven, bolt doesn't get dirty much
5th: Cleaning: extremely easy to field strip, 20 seconds to disassemble and put back together. Full strip gets a little tricky with the firing pin (if it's the spring mounted one), but once you get the hang of it it's ok.
6th: Reliability: Built to withstand a lot of abuse in its ordinary use, it was built for amphibious beach landings (Salty sea water, sand)
7th: Power: 18.5 inch barrel on a 1/7 rifle that is shorter and easier to handle than a 16 inch 1/8 barrel AR
8th: Shoulder: long length of pull, I'm 6.2 with long arms, lop is important for me!
9th: FTF, FTE, Stove pipes, light strikes, whatevers: Not one single malfunction in 800 rounds, but the casings have a very little slight indentation in them and the neck is flat on one end, could be the brass deflector, but I'm not sure, the indentation is on the same vertical line as the flat neck, maybe the extractor? I dunno, I need to research.
10th: Lefties: Fully ambidextrous, safety, ejections (my wife is a lefty, it's important for me)
For me it was a sure thing, I just had to get one. I was considering the xcr till the point where I put the XCR to my shoulder, lop was actually shorter on the XCR with stock fully extended than the Tavor Bullpup! Imagine that! XCR just felt really flimsy and cheap, (just my opinion guys, it doesn't mean it is, I just felt like it was)
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andrew3081
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Vancouver, BC
Get a tavor.
If you're in Vancouver we can go out and run it at Burke if you'd like.
Nice rifle but too pricey for me. By the way, there is a lot of talk about "running" going on in this thread. I simply use magazines. Running a magazine makes me think of a mag on a leash and the owner taking it for a run. I blame the bearded fellows on youtube and the gun periodical writers.
The Tavor has got to be the best NR military style rifle that can be bought but the price and the pinned magazines spoil it for me.
The Tavor has got to be the best NR military style rifle that can be bought but the price and the pinned magazines spoil it for me.
It was my first black rifle,and I have zero regrets about it.
I have had no issues what so ever with it. And it is always a crowd pleaser when you bring new people to the range. It always draws attention from everyone.
I have had no issues what so ever with it. And it is always a crowd pleaser when you bring new people to the range. It always draws attention from everyone.
Tried the Micro Tavor/X-95 Wow! The trigger is much lighter and the ergonomics much improved with ambi mag release within easy reach of your trigger finger and bolt catch release can be activated as you insert a fresh mag. Very impressed! I do like the Tavor except the trigger is so damn heavy but other than that I would buy one if I had the cash. I just have too much tied up in bolt guns;-)
How timely is it that Hickock45 just posted a Tavor video for you?
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I tried one at Target Sports last year and like many found the trigger to be far too heavy. If the aftermarket comes out with a trigger kit I'd be very interested!
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I tried one at Target Sports last year and like many found the trigger to be far too heavy. If the aftermarket comes out with a trigger kit I'd be very interested!
awesomemarc
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Nay everyone that buys one sells it why spend $4000 by the time you get optics. IMO buy a KAC and don't don't look back lol
You can use the following legally:
10 round ATRS magazines
10 round LAR magazines
14 round Beowolf magazines
No question, hands down...buy the Tavor already! I too am a new owner of a G3 FDE and am very happy. Its my new go to gun. As for the guy that is bi##ch'n about not having anything to "tacticool" it out...short of glass, what more do u need? Its probably the most 'Tacticool' NR unit on the market. When u put together its reliability, general fit and finish quality, its tested history, NR classification, up to 14 rounds legally....it is well worth the money. You wont regret it.
I just cant wait to see if they make on in 7.62x.51, then I will be the happy owner of 2! it will be a true his/hers kind of thing
I just cant wait to see if they make on in 7.62x.51, then I will be the happy owner of 2! it will be a true his/hers kind of thing
I've had mine for about 18 months. Have used 5/30 PMAGs, Metal LARS, and Beowolf. Never had any issue. The weight distribution of the rifle is perfect for shooting while standing and results in minimal rise of the barrel. Recoil is not an issue. It is by far my favourite gun.
My one complaint is that this is not a rifle to shoot indoors. The gas vents back into your eyes unless you are shooting in a well ventilated space.
My one complaint is that this is not a rifle to shoot indoors. The gas vents back into your eyes unless you are shooting in a well ventilated space.
Stormchaser
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I just cant wait to see if they make on in 7.62x.51, then I will be the happy owner of 2! it will be a true his/hers kind of thing
Me too please!
My Beowolf's hold 16 except for one, that I can squeeze 17 into.
Oh, yes, buy one!
