LE No 1 blowup or how not to dissemble a Lee Enfield (Update post #97)

some salvageable parts....

are those marks from a pipewrench on the barrel ??

I'm going to have to agree with desporterizer, receiver was cracked before you pulled the trigger.

The pipe wrench marks on the barrel was one of the first things that I noticed. Excess torque when putting on, or replacing a barrel can cause the receiver ring to crack. The Americans found this out in the early years of WWII when they rebarreled a lot of Model 1917 Enfield rifles.

38.0 grains of IMR-4895 with a 150 grain bullet in the .303 is really a starting load.

It does look like someone in the past has changed the barrel, or at least had the barrel off the action. Given the age of the rifle, and the "sporterizing" done to it, this is a good possibility, so excess headspace could be a suspect. Also an overcharge, wrong powder, or a bullet seated too long. It does look like there was not a lot of support for the rear of the cartridge.
 
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Ouch. Glad the damage to the shooter is less severe than that to the rifle. That is one massive catastrophic failure, and as you mentioned sad to loose such a classy old rifle.
 
As none of us was present when the rifle was modified & have no idea of the work done or even how it was done combined with the fact we will never know the exact (just the recipe) contents of the handloaded round used everything is just pure speculation, i am just glad you have come though this relatively unharmed.

Could not have said it better;thus the quote.
 
Tough guy survives an explosion and all he is worried about is the hard to find magazine. Canadians are a tough bread. Just don't glue it back together and sell it on the EE. You should melt that Demond down and use it as a paper weigh or book end.
 
WOW that is spectacular carnage.

Looks like cracked receiver to me, though I'm no expert!

I'm glad you are here to tell the tale. Sorry about the rifle.
 
"It had been sporterized and put in a one piece stock"

Hmmm. How was it set up with respect to the rear recoil lugs ? If the stock failed catastrophically at that point it might account for the receiver moving back off the barrel.
 
No point in ever buying lottery tickets for the remainder of your days as you used up all your luck in one shot. Glad to read your fine and sorry to see that old rifle in pieces like that
 
Speaking as a qualified armourer, my first thought when I saw the pictures was 'excessive headspace', separated case and evidence of gas wash supports this, but that is only part of the story.
I've seen this before on similar rifles (all of Enfield pedigree curiously enough). The receiver bursting is, as previously stated, a result of excessive torquing and factoring in the sporterising work and the age of the rifle it has simply reached the end of its lifespan;which will be cold comfort for the OP, who incidentally, is very lucky to have survived.
I'm always sad when incidents like this occur, regrettably that is an occupational hazard when using century old equipment.....which is why I am now definitely going to have my 1896 Mauser receiver scanned for cracks before I re-barrel it.
 
ok, here's my stab at it.

Firstly, there is brass flowed into the extractor cut and heavy slag deposits there, showing this area saw flame burning before the receiver let go. This tells us the failure originated in the chamber while the bolt was locked up. It would not be a headspace failure. Headspace failures will typically result in brass being contained on the extractor side and you have a circular base failure that blows out the gas relief hole on the left side of the receiver ring. These failures, typically, only occur if you are using brass with insipient separation already started, typically other than some gas in the face and a re-cocked bolt, you have few other symptoms of a case head separation. I've never seen one grenade an Enfield if the charge was otherwise right.

Second, the barrel looks to be a milsurp barrel. A military chamber would not exhibit neck tension issues, so I would rule that out unless you were shooting projectiles measuring at least .314" in diameter. There are pipe wrench marks, meaning at some time someone tried to remove or install the barrel with improper tools. Possibly they used too much force putting the barrel on and generated a hairline crack in the receiver ring, but without being to NDT your receiver fragments and run an LPI/dye penetrant test on the remaining breech face, I would be hesitant to blame that.

I know you think you did not overcharge that case, but frankly, the failure mode you exhibit is characteristic of a reloading error. Is it possible you recently reloaded a faster powder in your setup and didn't get al the old powder out? Maybe this was the first round you loaded? Did you buy your 4895 new, or used like at a gunshow?

The failure you depict shows the rear of the case expanded too rapidly and ballooned into the extractor cut void. At some point before the projectile could clear the barrel, the brass failed near the rim and dumped expanding gases into the receiver ring just aft of the barrel while the bolt was locked up. This would only really ever happen with a fast powder, probably a pistol powder. When this happens, the small gas vent hole is not sufficient to drop the pressure curve and the top of the receiver ring lets go. Crack propagation will typically start at the receiver C-cut (clearance for loaded round ejection) and propagate forward to the nearest receiver facing flaw, or a micro-tension crack from barrel install. Then it totally lets go and you get what we are seeing.

The steel in your failure area looks like typical failure for surface-hardened low carbon steel, the structure looks smewhat normalized (i.e. a pretty even mix of pearlite, austenite and martensite), a good thing, and not as coarse and angular as an embrittle martensitic stucture failure. From what little I can see in your photos, this tells me the receiver was likely sufficiently ductile at the core, despite likely being surface hardened in a carbon or bone-charcoal mix at manufacture. This could be verified through charpy testing a sample. The bulged appearance supports the tough-core theory with a relatively high modulous of elasticity.

Translated to English, it means I think your receiver was manufactured properly but you asked it to do more than it could through reloading error. If I had to bet the farm, I'd guess you had some pistol powder in your casing, not just H4895.
 
ok, here's my stab at it.

Firstly, there is brass flowed into the extractor cut and heavy slag deposits there, showing this area saw flame burning before the receiver let go. This tells us the failure originated in the chamber while the bolt was locked up. It would not be a headspace failure. Headspace failures will typically result in brass being contained on the extractor side and you have a circular base failure that blows out the gas relief hole on the left side of the receiver ring. These failures, typically, only occur if you are using brass with insipient separation already started, typically other than some gas in the face and a re-cocked bolt, you have few other symptoms of a case head separation. I've never seen one grenade an Enfield if the charge was otherwise right.

Second, the barrel looks to be a milsurp barrel. A military chamber would not exhibit neck tension issues, so I would rule that out unless you were shooting projectiles measuring at least .314" in diameter. There are pipe wrench marks, meaning at some time someone tried to remove or install the barrel with improper tools. Possibly they used too much force putting the barrel on and generated a hairline crack in the receiver ring, but without being to NDT your receiver fragments and run an LPI/dye penetrant test on the remaining breech face, I would be hesitant to blame that.

I know you think you did not overcharge that case, but frankly, the failure mode you exhibit is characteristic of a reloading error. Is it possible you recently reloaded a faster powder in your setup and didn't get al the old powder out? Maybe this was the first round you loaded? Did you buy your 4895 new, or used like at a gunshow?

The failure you depict shows the rear of the case expanded too rapidly and ballooned into the extractor cut void. At some point before the projectile could clear the barrel, the brass failed near the rim and dumped expanding gases into the receiver ring just aft of the barrel while the bolt was locked up. This would only really ever happen with a fast powder, probably a pistol powder. When this happens, the small gas vent hole is not sufficient to drop the pressure curve and the top of the receiver ring lets go. Crack propagation will typically start at the receiver C-cut (clearance for loaded round ejection) and propagate forward to the nearest receiver facing flaw, or a micro-tension crack from barrel install. Then it totally lets go and you get what we are seeing.

The steel in your failure area looks like typical failure for surface-hardened low carbon steel, the structure looks smewhat normalized (i.e. a pretty even mix of pearlite, austenite and martensite), a good thing, and not as coarse and angular as an embrittle martensitic stucture failure. From what little I can see in your photos, this tells me the receiver was likely sufficiently ductile at the core, despite likely being surface hardened in a carbon or bone-charcoal mix at manufacture. This could be verified through charpy testing a sample. The bulged appearance supports the tough-core theory with a relatively high modulous of elasticity.

Translated to English, it means I think your receiver was manufactured properly but you asked it to do more than it could through reloading error. If I had to bet the farm, I'd guess you had some pistol powder in your casing, not just H4895.

That's what I was gonna say dude.
 
some salvageable parts....

are those marks from a pipewrench on the barrel ??

I'm going to have to agree with desporterizer, receiver was cracked before you pulled the trigger.

Indeed, to which I would add that I am wondering if this Black Power rifle was ever nitro proofed?
 
BTW & FWIW it is not a No1 Mk1 there is in fact no such rifle, there are only 3 models that have No1 in the designation No1 MkIII, No1 MkIII* & No1 MkVI.
The Mk1, MkII ConD, MkIV ConD & the MkV SMLEs never got the designation " Rifle No1 "
Anyway the rifle in this thread is a MLE so cant even be grouped into the No1 Family.
 
The flattened scabbard bolt knob and six round magazine tell a story. That looks like an LEC1/LEC1* ( a cavalry and artillery carbine) that's been rebarrelled. Was probably overtorqued upon barrel replacement.

What a shame, but I'm glad you're OK. The damage to you could've been much worse.



BTW...I'm in need of the proper magazine for my 1896 LEC1. Do you know of anyone who has one for sale?
 
If you believe in the nine lives story, you definitely used one up.
I'm sure glad you weren't seriously hurt.
Maybe a developed flinch.

Look up and say, "thank you"
Seems you have someone watching over you.
 
The only powder I have is 4895 right now. Its certainly possible that I screwed up on the load. I will do some experimenting on how much powder I can get in a case when I get back out of camp.
The flattened scabbard bolt knob and six round magazine tell a story. That looks like an LEC1/LEC1* ( a cavalry and artillery carbine) that's been rebarrelled. Was probably overtorqued upon barrel replacement.
BTW...I'm in need of the proper magazine for my 1896 LEC1. Do you know of anyone who has one for sale?
The magazine came out of another rifle I have so, no, its not for sale. I need another one actually. I'll even take a ten rounder. I've still got two more to blow up. :D
 
The only powder I have is 4895 right now. Its certainly possible that I screwed up on the load. I will do some experimenting on how much powder I can get in a case when I get back out of camp.

The magazine came out of another rifle I have so, no, its not for sale. I need another one actually. I'll even take a ten rounder. I've still got two more to blow up. :D

You rock. Lol.
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The only powder I have is 4895 right now. Its certainly possible that I screwed up on the load. I will do some experimenting on how much powder I can get in a case when I get back out of camp.

You can fit 48-50 grs of H4895 in a 303 Brit case with the 150 gr bullet, which would yield pressures between approximately 65K and 70K psi. If all he has is H4895, the likelihood that he accidently filled the case is remote - a double charge is not even close to possible.

The damage incurred here looks like the pressures were much higher than that, based on similar damage I've seen elsewhere. Classic bore obstruction damage.

I'd still like to see the bottom part of the cartridge (or what's left of it). Are there any bulges on the barrel?
 
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