At the range today, salesman tried to tell me that nork 1911's are made from pot meta

ambishooter said:
Definitely not pot metal, but might not be consistent in hardness and quality of steel used. I have heard of some Norcs with chipped slide and frames. The bottom line is, you pay cheap, you get the quality for that level. Hit and miss I must say.
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If anyone has a Norc with a chipped slide or frame, or knows someone who does, could you please post a picture of the gun in question. I've never heard of such a thing, and given that I've been paying attention here since 2004, I think it should have surfaced at some point. I have heard of such issues with Para Ordnance products, just not with Norinco. The only issue I'm aware of (from a structural perspective) with Norinco 1911's is misaligned pin locations on the very early ones.
 
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ambishooter said:
Definitely not pot metal, but might not be consistent in hardness and quality of steel used. I have heard of some Norcs with chipped slide and frames. The bottom line is, you pay cheap, you get the quality for that level. Hit and miss I must say.
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Consistency in qualty is more likely the issue, if you get a good one your golden if not you have not lost alot and it may be fixable.
 
Lol, idiots abound, but the dude abides, the dude abides.
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Lol, don't get me wrong. I will, at some point let him know that he talks out of his a55. I'm just gong to wait until I'm no going to embarass him in front of his customers, or myself for being one of those obnoxious know it alls that does down service for everyone in line behind me. Thanks for the comments
 
because you get what you pay for.
because it is not reliable or safe, and because it contains toxic components as lead (your safety).
Because it does not follow QC procedures as high end ammo, because it is dirty and corrosive, because it might blow up your gun.




trebor2880 said:
Why?
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Did you just say bullets contain LEAD?

OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I've been lied to all these years! I thought they contained tactical ground up rainbow unicorn horns!

MIND=BLOWN

Avenida said:
because you get what you pay for.
because it is not reliable or safe, and because it contains toxic components as lead (your safety).
Because it does not follow QC procedures as high end ammo, because it is dirty and corrosive, because it might blow up your gun.
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transporteRR said:
Because its filthy, not reliable nd for few more dollars u can get much better ammo
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But it won't hurt a more expensive gun, right? Just won't be as reliable, without proper maintenance.
And at under 17 bucks, it's alot cheaper.
Runs fine through a Norinco, without regular upkeep, and is fine with a Spartan and SIG, if kept clean.
I'm on my third case and I wouldn't hesitate to order more. But yeah, it is dirty!
 
transporteRR said:
I do but i fired 50 rounds thru my 1911 nd it looked like hell, way worse than after 500 rounds of blazer brass
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I've been through about 4,000 rounds so far, and yes - it definitely shoots dirty. But for $0.30 a round, I can put up with a sooty looking gun at the range and just do a cleaning when I get back home.
 
who cares if ammo is dirty, that's why we clean. I've never seen, heard or even heard a rumor of anyone "blowing up their gun" with norinco ammo. I've also never seen a 1911 that wouldn't cycle it reliably...well i have, but 1) is was an expensive north american made brand new gun starting with the letter "C", and 2) that pistol would not cycle ANY ammo at all reliably, and was returned for refund.

I've only known one or two shooters who can shoot more accurate then the norc ammo is capable of, and then they can only do so with full on deliberate bullseye shooting, Once they switch to IDPA/IPSC they might as well shoot the norc ammo...

If you don't like cheap chinese ammo, just don't buy it, but no reason to pretend it's much worse then anything else...it's not. And it contains/releases no more lead then any other type of ammo unless you shoot lead free primed Win-Clean ammo all the time.

Suprised that no one commented on the fact that Wilson Combat thought Norc frames where good enough to build customs on when they where available in america. Jerry Kuenhausen also commented in his books how good their frames where for platform builds, compared to what was available in america.
 
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