M305 canted front sights. What can be done to correct it?

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I'm looking to purchase an M305 and have been reading about these canted front sights.
What can be done to correct this?
Does anyone have pics on how this can be accomplished?

I will be going to Barneys, AKA Testicle Teachers 2 day clinic in Petawawa next month.
 
Simplest solution would be to view the rifle before you buy it.

And ask about warranty, in an email.
Not that simple since Marstar doesn't accept visitors.
Nobody in the province stocks them AFAIK.

you will get it fixed at the barney clinic
I'm trying to see how it fits on there to bring the proper Springfield Armory parts to replace them.
 
Not that simple since Marstar doesn't accept visitors.
Nobody in the province stocks them AFAIK.

I'm trying to see how it fits on there to bring the proper Springfield Armory parts to replace them.

The 2 main things to change would be the rear sights as a lot of them are junk and the op rod spring guide .If the front sight is canted due to front sight milled at an angle or barrel index is off in either case its an easy fix. Try and get a SA muzzle brake anyhow but if you front sight base itself isn't canted you can spend your money elsewhere on it.....and you will ..lol.
 
The 2 main things to change would be the rear sights as a lot of them are junk and the op rod spring guide .If the front sight is canted due to front sight milled at an angle or barrel index is off in either case its an easy fix. Try and get a SA muzzle brake anyhow but if you front sight base itself isn't canted you can spend your money elsewhere on it.....and you will ..lol.

Pls excuse my lack of knowledge, how would I find if barrel is indexed properly or not. I have tried searching the web and YouTube but nothing came up for dummies like me. Can you pls explain, best would be few pics showing the index/markings? Thanks in advance.
 
Pls excuse my lack of knowledge, how would I find if barrel is indexed properly or not. I have tried searching the web and YouTube but nothing came up for dummies like me. Can you pls explain, best would be few pics showing the index/markings? Thanks in advance.

I just use the minute of eyeball method, since I'm an iron sight shooter from way back (35 years ago), I can glance and tell if your front sight is leaning to the left like Justin Turdo or to the right like Stephen Harper. Often I will go so far as to blame the poorly machined high school shop class flash suppressor, and when I swap that flash suppressor unit out, the cant is GONE! :D

Sometimes I will do the swap and the cant is STILL there! So now we know we have to re-index it at my house or the Petawawa M14 Clinic because they have a kick-ass bench vise at that location. It's only a 5 minute (well, maybe 2 minutes) job! No kidding.

Cheers and keep helping the newbies!

Barney
 
I just use the minute of eyeball method, since I'm an iron sight shooter from way back (35 years ago), I can glance and tell if your front sight is leaning to the left like Justin Turdo or to the right like Stephen Harper. Often I will go so far as to blame the poorly machined high school shop class flash suppressor, and when I swap that flash suppressor unit out, the cant is GONE! :D

Sometimes I will do the swap and the cant is STILL there! So now we know we have to re-index it at my house or the Petawawa M14 Clinic because they have a kick-ass bench vise at that location. It's only a 5 minute (well, maybe 2 minutes) job! No kidding.

Cheers and keep helping the newbies!

Barney

But there is no markings on receiver and/or barrel that you match to each other correct?

Never mind, should have checked the above link before asking more stupid questions.
Thanks
 
Sorry but if barrel is indexed properly and front sight is canted, does it matter? Especially if rifle is scoped and front sight is not getting used. Should I move the barrel(out of index)to straighten up the sights?
 
hell no, don't touch the index if it is done right

if not using front sight then obviously it doesn't matter, but the correct solution would be to fix the front sight

Sorry but if barrel is indexed properly and front sight is canted, does it matter? Especially if rifle is scoped and front sight is not getting used. Should I move the barrel(out of index)to straighten up the sights?
 
Simplest solution would be to view the rifle before you buy it.

And ask about warranty, in an email.

I've seen a few comments regarding warranty and crooked sights/indexing and a few other "typical" norinco m14 "flaws"
When I say Typical, that means just that and has been the case with these rifles all along, for years.
I hardly see it as a warranty issue on a 400 n change rifle.
Just my opinion, not trying flame anyone.

These typical flaws are essentially what keeps the content here flowing LOL and it's been that way for many years now.

When I verify barrel index, there's one "quick test" I perform. Remove action from stock, remove oprod spring/guide and oprod, remove bolt, remove gas plug and piston. Tighten gas lock as far as it will turn by hand.
Lay the rifle upside down on a table so the bottom side is basically level. Insert a 1/16 drill bit , shank end, into hole on bottom of gas cylinder and into barrel. Allow it to sit in place while you look from the rear with your eye low to the bottom of receiver.

Use the receiver lugs and the cutout where the spring guide goes as reference and see if the drill bit is vertically parallel to the receiver legs and oprod spring guide cutout/recess.
Move drill bit side to side in hole to see if it will lean more one way than another. This will give a damn close estimate on whether index is off.

Typically, levelling bars on flash hider an behind rear sight are a good indicator... But as the flash hiders are often out of spec.... The levelling bars only read true if muzzle device is replaced with USGI or an aftermarket device adhering to usgi standards.

My 2 cents. :D
 
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