700p LTR availability? opinions?

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does anyone know where I can find a new Rem 700p LTR in 308? I cant seem to find one in any of the online gun stores.

Also if I find one what are some opinions on using it for a long range mountain rifle??

I know it is on the heavy end of the scale at 7.5lbs for a mountain rig but no worse than a standard weight hunting rifle. the advantage in my mind is the compactness with the 20" barrel and the solid accurate platform. I know 308 is not exactly the ideal long range cartridge for big game but I think will be sufficient out to 350yds on deer size game.

My other consideration is getting a true long range rig , the rem sendero 300wm, the drawbacks with this gun are the extra 1lb of weight right off the start and 6" more barrel to pack around.
 
Not many shops will be carrying Remington's LEO line. They're really just their regular M700 rifles with medium heavy barrels, oiled stocks and phosphated steel.
"...the 20" barrel..." Velocity loss and excessive muzzle blast and flash in a .308.
"...true long range rig..." What do you call long range? The 350? DCRA shooting considers 300 to be short range. Shot regularly with .308's. And a .308 bullet, like it's elder brother, the .30-06, isn't stabilised until it's traveled 300 yards.
 
sunray said:
And a .308 bullet, like it's elder brother, the .30-06, isn't stabilised until it's traveled 300 yards.
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Interesting comment. Not to highjack the OP's thread, but what does that mean sunray? I'm not sure I follow you. I've shot 6 deer with my .308 BLR and it works well at 60 to 125 yards. Is an unstable bullet less lethal? Can't be less accurate at short range...can it?
 
keep in mind I am not looking for a competition rig , simply looking at this model for hunting thinking it may be more accurate out of the box than say a 700 bdl or similar, I like the compactness of it for packing around. also for my hunting I consider 75yds and less short range and 350 yds the limit of what I would want to shoot
 
Ok...the bait is out for this thread to get totally derailed..

To answer your question, Frontier Firearms shows one in stock.
Other good examples in the Remington line up are;
5R Mil-Spec with threaded 20" barrel.
XCR Tactical Compact...very similar to the LTR.
SPS Tactical with or without threaded barrel...needs a stock upgrade though.

I had an LTR an they are great rifles..
 
I have a LTR which I use hike hunting and in competition out to 900m, and have used it in NSCC competition. I wanted a rifle that I could compete with and hunt with, and it does that well, though each time I am on the range, I want more barrel, and more glass, and each time hiking with it, I want less weight. That said, practising with one platform makes me quite confident in it.

The only downside I have found is that it is not stainless. If I could do it again, I would get a 20inch 5r, or similar. From what you describe of your intended use, the LTR would be a great fit.
 
sunray said:
Not many shops will be carrying Remington's LEO line. They're really just their regular M700 rifles with medium heavy barrels, oiled stocks and phosphated steel.
"...the 20" barrel..." Velocity loss and excessive muzzle blast and flash in a .308.
"...true long range rig..." What do you call long range? The 350? DCRA shooting considers 300 to be short range. Shot regularly with .308's. And a .308 bullet, like it's elder brother, the .30-06, isn't stabilised until it's traveled 300 yards.
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Can you enlighten me as to how a bullet is not stabilized until X amount of distance? It does not gain rpm the further it travels.
By your thinking, which I am not saying is incorrect but does not make sense to me, a 308 or any caliber for that matter, that shoots a .2" 5 shot group at 100 yards should shoot much tighter beyond 300 taking into account that .2 at 100 equates to .6 at 300?

As I understand it IF the projectile makes a perfectly round hole in a paper target at X distance , it is then stable. This is according to Brian Litz, but he may be wrong. The twist rate of the barrel will dictate at what point the bullet is stabilized. If there is not a fast enough twist for a given bullet then the bullet may never be properly stabilized.
 
sunray said:
Not many shops will be carrying Remington's LEO line. They're really just their regular M700 rifles with medium heavy barrels, oiled stocks and phosphated steel.
"...the 20" barrel..." Velocity loss and excessive muzzle blast and flash in a .308.
"...true long range rig..." What do you call long range? The 350? DCRA shooting considers 300 to be short range. Shot regularly with .308's. And a .308 bullet, like it's elder brother, the .30-06, isn't stabilised until it's traveled 300 yards.
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I think he's just spewing garbage in an attempt to get to 20,000 posts.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Can you enlighten me as to how a bullet is not stabilized until X amount of distance? It does not gain rpm the further it travels.
By your thinking, which I am not saying is incorrect but does not make sense to me, a 308 or any caliber for that matter, that shoots a .2" 5 shot group at 100 yards should shoot much tighter beyond 300 taking into account that .2 at 100 equates to .6 at 300?

As I understand it IF the projectile makes a perfectly round hole in a paper target at X distance , it is then stable. This is according to Brian Litz, but he may be wrong. The twist rate of the barrel will dictate at what point the bullet is stabilized. If there is not a fast enough twist for a given bullet then the bullet may never be properly stabilized.
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^ This. I have no idea what the other guy was getting on with.
 
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