An honest XCR review for anyone interested in one

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Rifle: stock new model XCR-L in 5.56
Optic: elcheapo cabelas tactical prism sight 3x (for testing only until I figure out what optics I really want)
Ammo used: Remington UMC, American Eagle FMJ 55gr

First off I want to say that although I am expirenced with a few black rifles I am not aware of all the black rifles on the market and their exact features. I am going to do my best to give an unbiased review of my xcr and I will be comparing it mostly to my experiences in the army with a C7A2. I, like many others on CGN, consider a rifle that costs 2300-2500$ to be a big purchase that needs to be heavily considered and researched and I hope to make it a little easier for anyone who is looking at one.

Out of the box: first picking up the rifle I am pleased. Fit and finish is as good as any rifle I have seen. Gun is lightly oiled, no scratches handling marks or any defect (which should be the norm for this $$$) the case the gun comes in is nice but too small. As soon as you mount optics on the rifle the case is useless. The only minor inconvenience was there was some red lock tite that leaked out from the ejector screws. Which brings me to my next point

Lock tite and the XCR: I'm sure you have all read the xcr horror stories of parts flying everywhere. I did read these stories and also have seen lots of people who never used lock tite and had no problems. But being the pestimist I am I grabbed some medium lock tite from crappy tire and applied it to some parts as listed in the stickies. So far no problems with losening screws on my rifle.

Ergonomics: In a nutshell, awesome. Very AR like. Everything can be controlled with your trigger finger and thumb. The 45 degree saftey is much nicer then an standard 90 degree throw, however it was a little stiff to turn the saftey ON when I first got the rifle but after 500 rounds it's smooth and crisp. The non reciprocating charging handle is great in function and ergonomics however makes the rifle uncomfortable to sling in certain configurations.

Weight and length: this is a heavy rifle. Make no mistake about it. That being said, it doesn't mean the rifle isn't capable of doing what you need it too. If you are looking for a competion rifle where hundredths of a seconds matter then yes you'll probably want something shorter and lighter but this is Canada. Non restricted = long and front heavy. The rifle seems longer in pictures and videos (to me) and in reality it is about 2 inches longer than a non restricted CZ858 with the stock fully extended. I'm a average sized guy about 5'11" 170 pounds and this rifle is heavy but eat you're wheaties and you'll be fine

RANGE DAY (all that matters): rain, mild wind 10*C.

Break in: People say (and Robinson Armament) to break in the XCR on gas setting 4 (crazy high) for 200-500 rounds. I did not do this. I set it to gas setting 1 and it was ejecting the brass 12 feet and I had ZERO failures out of 500 rounds. As a welder with a fairly vast knowledge of metallurgy I don't see the point in cycling the action harder (faster) than necessary as it doesn't actually increase friction on parallel parts but only at the rear of the reciever and wrecking the buffer pad. Of course every rifle is different and I suggest you follow RA's Reccomendations. This part is just my exciprence and opinion after inspecting all the mating surfaces of the internals.

Function: flawless (so far). Zero failures. Clean crisp action. Solid consistent extraction and feeding. No excessive wear on parts as seen on early model xcr's. Happy happy. This is where more horror stories come in with the XCR but I believe this is all in the past. With thorough inspection and understanding of your rifle I believe all problems are avoidable.

Accuracy: not the best. I was shooting from prone of my elbows at 100 yards. Ive never enjoyed shooting off a bench and usually only sight in my rifles that way. With a c7 in the army I was very capable of 2 MOA all day long (100m prone unsupported) With the xcr the very best I could do was 2.5 MOA with a more realistic group of 3.3 MOA. Could I do better with sand bags, a real scope and a bench? Probably ya. These are my results and I am happy with them. Your rifle may vary, some guys can achieve awesome results with different ammo/ hand loads.

Edit- sorry no pictures of accuracy tests, it was raining and didn't want to wreck my girlfriends camera. Whether or not you believe my results is totally up to you.

Cons: heavy and long rifle. But this is the price for non restricted friends. You have to weigh this out for yourselfs. I knew I wanted something for the sandpits with buddies and coyotes in the future.

Pros: everything else! It's a non restricted black rifle with a lot if the same characteristics of an AR.

Conclusion: it took me over a year to finally commit to purchasing this rifle and I am more than happy I did. Highly reliable and loads of fun. I know this isn't the best review in the world but if it helps one more gun nut join the XCR brother hood then Ive done my job.

Thanks guys.
 
They are a bit heavy with a scope, but they are an awesome gun. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone. There are lots of haters that dont like it because "loctite" and "not battle proven" but most havent owned one and probably havent shot one. Mine was flawless and very high quality.
 
Glad to see I'm not the only one with a crappy camera!! :cheers:

Blurry pictures give the reviewer way more credibility. I know he/she is spending their money on firearms, optics, mags, ammo etc instead of a decent camera which becomes obsolete within a few months.

If the XCR has the AR accuracy capabilities I would own one in a heartbeat. The piston system, the quality of barrel and the barrel retention system seem to be the limiting factor of this rifle. The ergos are excellent. The idea is great. I seriously considered getting one. Every once in a while I take another look. The XCR-M was tough to resist. There's a lot to like about the XCR. Ergos, monolithic rail, AR like and non restricted. I just wish there was a fixed SS match grade barrel version. If it could shoot close to an accurized AR I would have to buy one.

To the OP. A couple of soaking in G96 gets rid of any required "break in" for new firearms. The stuff works great. Use regular oil at the high wear points but use this metal conditioner for the rest. Also helps the finish resist scratching.

Thanks for the review. Good read.
 
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Glad to see I'm not the only one with a crappy camera!! :cheers:

Blurry pictures give the reviewer way more credibility. I know he/she is spending their money on firearms, optics, mags, ammo etc instead of a decent camera which becomes obsolete within a few months.

Haha yes! The majority of my free money gets tied up in firearms, ammo and stuff I don't really need. My girlfriend actually has an insane camera that I rarely get to touch but I do like playing around with it. Even I can manage to make some artsy gun photos with it, can't wait to make some XCR p0rn next time I'm out
 
If you're in to it, with reloads I've gotten the groups down to 1".

With Hornady V-Max 55gr and Varget power...forget the exact grainage for the powder but it is the max load as specified in the Hornady reloading manual...can get the grainage if you want me to.
 
If you're in to it, with reloads I've gotten the groups down to 1".

With Hornady V-Max 55gr and Varget power...forget the exact grainage for the powder but it is the max load as specified in the Hornady reloading manual...can get the grainage if you want me to.

That would be great if you did share! I do reload my larger calibers and definitely want to start on .223 as well. Heading out to my buddies place in prince Albert sask. for coyotes this winter and having a 1" capable xcr would be amazing.

What kind of varget powder? Im only familiar with imr powders
 
That would be great if you did share! I do reload my larger calibers and definitely want to start on .223 as well. Heading out to my buddies place in prince Albert sask. for coyotes this winter and having a 1" capable xcr would be amazing.

What kind of varget powder? Im only familiar with imr powders

As per the Hornady manual, the max load is 26.4gr of Varget. Varget is a powder by Hodgon and it is apparently also a really good one for .308, if you shoot that too, which makes it more convenient. You'll have to vary your own loads to see which one is best for you.

I suspect the accuracy simply comes from an accurate charge load (somewhat) and a consistent bullet seat (more so). I get the same accuracy if I shoot the Hornady FMJ's as with their VMAX's, which is therefore a huge improvement over any bulk FMJ round such as from Amreican Eagle, with which I only get ~3 MOA out of.

I wouldn't want to do coyotes with 3MOA, and p-dogs are out of the question. With ~1MOA coyotes are no problem and p-dogs become doable.
 
As per the Hornady manual, the max load is 26.4gr of Varget. Varget is a powder by Hodgon and it is apparently also a really good one for .308, if you shoot that too, which makes it more convenient. You'll have to vary your own loads to see which one is best for you.

I suspect the accuracy simply comes from an accurate charge load (somewhat) and a consistent bullet seat (more so). I get the same accuracy if I shoot the Hornady FMJ's as with their VMAX's, which is therefore a huge improvement over any bulk FMJ round such as from Amreican Eagle, with which I only get ~3 MOA out of.

I wouldn't want to do coyotes with 3MOA, and p-dogs are out of the question. With ~1MOA coyotes are no problem and p-dogs become doable.

Thank you very much ccw! I sold my 308 and currently reload .303 British, .30-06 and .30-30. I get .5MOA with my .30-06 and I'm very excited to push my xcr now. Will be picking up a set of dies tonight haha
 
Thank you very much ccw! I sold my 308 and currently reload .303 British, .30-06 and .30-30. I get .5MOA with my .30-06 and I'm very excited to push my xcr now. Will be picking up a set of dies tonight haha

Yah well with the .223 in semi-auto, you'll be reloading a heck of a lot more brass! But, its worth it...halves the price even from bulk rates. And gives an excuse to hide from the wife in the man den...hehe.

Hey, I made a brass-stopper for my XCR so that it didn't throw brass so far away when at the range, and keeps the brass right on your bench. I made a video for it which I will post later, and then link it here for you.
 
I might sell my NEA for a XCR

I hope you have other ar's! Although the XCR filled a very large part of my hearts desire for an AR, there's still a spot in my heart that only an AR can fill (I blame the army). It's going to be along time before I buy one just because it's not practical for me. My XCR will see 5 times as much range time then any of my restricted guns
 
I hope you have other ar's! Although the XCR filled a very large part of my hearts desire for an AR, there's still a spot in my heart that only an AR can fill (I blame the army). It's going to be along time before I buy one just because it's not practical for me. My XCR will see 5 times as much range time then any of my restricted guns

Nope, was thinking a XCR, Keltec Rfb 308 & maybe a Norinco bullpup, my big thing is the range is always busy, so NR i can find a spot nd let it rip
 
Yah well with the .223 in semi-auto, you'll be reloading a heck of a lot more brass! But, its worth it...halves the price even from bulk rates. And gives an excuse to hide from the wife in the man den...hehe.

Hey, I made a brass-stopper for my XCR so that it didn't throw brass so far away when at the range, and keeps the brass right on your bench. I made a video for it which I will post later, and then link it here for you.

Brass curtain in action:


How it works:

 
It's funny cuz I'm only 5'6", 155lb, never been spoiled by an AR. My xcr did not seem heavy at all, on fact much lighter than anything else including my .22's. I think my 10/22 with a 18-20" full bull barrel weighs 11-12lbs or so, my fcp-k is probably 12-14lbs.
 
A colt c8 definitely feels lighter, but after 300-400 rounds of hard training last week, and no extra lube, mine was getting ready to stop functioning.
A good piston gun like the xcr does not have that problem.
The bolt on an AR after firing that many rounds is searing hot to the touch, and covered with a dry, burnt on carbon. I no long appreciate the DI system.
 
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