dying to get the M37... ETA?

P0WERWAGON said:
by that BS logic, if i take an M16 parts kits and put it on my AR15 lower, i'd need a new upper "receiver" too.
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No, by that logic if an AR 15 had a lower receiver that had walls that assembled to make a full lower receiver, all of those walls would need to be new, and no one wall could have come from a full auto m16. If it did, it would be considered a converted auto.
 
I am surprised that William Etter didn't also count the Ohio Rapid Fire and US Ordnance Inc. made semi 1919's in that letter, as there are FRT numbers for both these models. If the RCMP created an FRT number for these, they obviously had samples submitted for inspection.



P0WERWAGON said:
by that BS logic, if i take an M16 parts kits and put it on my AR15 lower, i'd need a new upper "receiver" too.
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Well that is your first mistake. Logic is the last thing the RCMP uses when making up these stupid firearms rulings. LOL ;)
 
There is absolutely no basis in law for a FRT number to be assigned to a firearm. The FRT exists only for the purpose of identification for registration. It is a catalogue, not a legal document. It exists for the convenience of the CFP, not because a firearm must be FaRTed. Does the SFSS require that a new built non-restricted muzzleloading percussion firearm be submitted for assignment of a FRT number? No. There is no legal requirement for the issue of a number.
 
Beezer said:
I am surprised that William Etter didn't also count the Ohio Rapid Fire and US Ordnance Inc. made semi 1919's in that letter, as there are FRT numbers for both these models. If the RCMP created an FRT number for these, they obviously had samples submitted for inspection.





Well that is your first mistake. Logic is the last thing the RCMP uses when making up these stupid firearms rulings. LOL ;)
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He didn't include the FRT info for the other 1919's because I didn't ask about them. My question to him regarding the TNW and Valkyrie Arms manufactured ones came about from a rumour started here by another member that they would be reclassified as prohib converted auto. Thankfully that rumor was false as confirmed by William Etter but I wasn't going to sit around and wait to find out I may lose my high dollar firearm.

As it stands though I think my complete 1919 package is going to go up for sale maybe. There's just too many other firearms I'd like to have and I've got lots of money tied up just in this one package.
 
mildcustom2 said:
He didn't include the FRT info for the other 1919's because I didn't ask about them. My question to him regarding the TNW and Valkyrie Arms manufactured ones came about from a rumour started here by another member that they would be reclassified as prohib converted auto. Thankfully that rumor was false as confirmed by William Etter but I wasn't going to sit around and wait to find out I may lose my high dollar firearm.

As it stands though I think my complete 1919 package is going to go up for sale maybe. There's just too many other firearms I'd like to have and I've got lots of money tied up just in this one package.
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dont sell itb: theres always more money. theres not always more guns.;)
 
mildcustom2 said:
Everything is for sale for the right price. ;)

Unfortunately I think this one has to go, I want way too many other firearms to keep this one high dollar one.
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lol ya i guess for the right price i would give up my stuff too. as shown recently the property of the U.S. stamp isnt coming back any time soon. not on the side of the m37 anyways (if they ever do make it up here).
 
223762 said:
lol ya i guess for the right price i would give up my stuff too. as shown recently the property of the U.S. stamp isnt coming back any time soon. not on the side of the m37 anyways (if they ever do make it up here).
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And 5400$ plus tax for the M37 and it doesn't come with a tripod or anything from my understanding is a butt load of coin in my opinion.

You wouldn't believe the amount of spare parts and accessories I've collected together with my 1919 in the past months. It got out of control really fast. ;)
 
This guy at the Lab is making $hit up as he goes along. Heres an example - the sten guns, the tube is nothing, the magwell is the receiver. On the browning it has always been the RHSP constitutes the receiver until this guy comes in and rewrites the rules once again. As for saying we must submit homebuilt 1919's for examination who is he to make that decision? Where does it say that in firearms act?? Does every current TNW M1919 owner have to be worried that the next time they are at the range and the RCMP officer shooting next to him sees the gun, says that looks illegal! Then siezes the gun, and instead of being in the right owning your legally acquired non-restricted firearm it gets sent to the lab, they find a re-used part on the reciever and you get charged with possessing a C/A gun? Do they not comprehend the consequences of this flip flop decision?
 
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gutinater said:
This guy at the Lab is making $hit up as he goes along. Heres an example - the sten guns, the tube is nothing, the magwell is the receiver. On the browning it has always been the RHSP constitutes the receiver until this guy comes in and rewrites the rules once again. As for saying we must submit homebuilt 1919's for examination who is he to make that decision? Where does it say that in firearms act?? Does every current TNW M1919 owner have to be worried that the next time they are at the range and the RCMP officed next to him sees the gun, says that looks illegal! Then siezes the gun, and instead of being in the right owning your legally acquired non-restricted firearm it gets sent to the lab, they find a re-used part on the reciever and you get charged with possessing a C/A gun? Do they not comprehend the consequences of this flip flop decision?
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is it written somewhere what parts are considered the receiver? how would new guys at the lab know what there looking for?
 
Back to the task at hand ladies... when is my M37 showing up?????

I might ask my dealer for a refund of the deposit, or spend it at the store... don't really feel like having a dealer sit on my $400 for a gun that may or may not ever arrive. I'll just have to live with owning only one Browning belt-fed...
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mildcustom2 said:
You wouldn't believe the amount of spare parts and accessories I've collected together with my 1919 in the past months. It got out of control really fast. ;)
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I would believe it. I have had the same addiction when it came to mine. Ebay has been my worst enemy when it came to Browning parts. LOL
It is amazing what is still surfacing in Europe for parts.





The whole issue about what part constitutes being the receiver, as far as the RCMP's view, is just silly. If they would just follow the BATF standards it would be simpler, but Noooo!!!. The RCMP has to be different and make things more difficult.

What would happen if someone with a TNW broke or cracked one of the 4 parts that the RCMP says make up the reciever? I exclude the right side plate from this, as it is the one part that is actually newly made on any brand of semi 1919. Now the chances of finding a newly made or new surplus part to replace any of the other 4 parts is slim to none. So that person decides to use a used surplus part to replace the broken part. Under the RCMP's rules, that gun is now become prohibited only for changing one of the 5 receiver parts. This is how ridiculous their logic is.
 
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