Best way to fix a incorrectly pinned magainze?

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Hey CGN,

Need help with a quick fix...I bought a Glock a few weeks ago now, I just realized that one of the magazines is pinned to 8/17 and the other one IS done correctly at 10/17 (using the round count 14 hole). Any tips/tricks for a quick fix? Best place to get the right sized rivet?

Thanks,

- J
 
plinker 777 said:
...would a properly sized block not work if fitted and secured internally? Rivets can get hung up.
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I'm pretty sure if you use a block you have to permanently seal the floorplate of the mag for the mod to be considered "permanent"

That said, poking at those rivets is bad juju, it'll turn ya into a raving baby killer donchano.
 
FML, this is a simple problem that requires a simple solution. Here it is, pay attention now. Step 1: Remove old rivet. Step 2: Look at old rivet. Step 3: Using info gained in step 2, go buy new rivet that is appropriate size. Step 4: Install new rivet.
 
09outlander said:
FML, this is a simple problem that requires a simple solution. Here it is, pay attention now. Step 1: Remove old rivet. Step 2: Look at old rivet. Step 3: Using info gained in step 2, go buy new rivet that is appropriate size. Step 4: Install new rivet.
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But that will leave the OP with a prohibited magazine for upwards of 7 minutes, which is more than enough time for that empty magazine to wreak terrible havoc.
 
jeffcarr88 said:
And I assume a drill is the best way to remove them?
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Assuming it's a standard pop rivet then yes. Use an oversize bit, gentle pressure and a slower than normal speed and you can cut off the head. When the ring left behind starts spinning it SHOULD be all done.

Pop rivets only come in set sizes. So the one you use will be one of those. It'll be either 1/8 or 3/16 more'n likely. Try the magazine hole with drill bits to see which is closest. If the 1/8 is way too sloppy and the hole is slightly too tight for a 3/16 I'd suggest you drill the hole out to 3/16. Pop rivets only expand so much and if the hole is quite sloppy even an expanded rivet can fall right out.

And I agree that the best way to avoid the black helicopters swooping in to take you is to set the new rivet first. Or work in a deep black room away from windows where the spy satellites that are already watching your closely as a result of this post can't see what you're doing..... :D
 
and, if you are riveting something in plastic, don't let it spin too fast, or it will melt when the rivet head gets hot.

I know, probably Glock mags are metal, more of a general knowledge thing.
 
JR Hartman said:
and, if you are riveting something in plastic, don't let it spin too fast, or it will melt when the rivet head gets hot.

I know, probably Glock mags are metal, more of a general knowledge thing.
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no the mags are plastic too.....

I just bought 3 BHP 10/13 mags, all 3 had the rivets in the hole ground flat/flush with the mag and fell INTO the mag literally the first time I picked them up. I made a little square block out of aluminium and stuck it in the bottom of the mag, then put a rivet through the floorplate hole into the block. Floor plate is not removeable, block works, back in business.
 
That's right, Glock mags are plastic with steel liner lips.

To drill out the rivet in plastic ideally one would remove the innards and reach in with a set of long nose pliers or some other tool and hold the internal stub while drilling the head off. Plastic simply won't hold well enough to avoid the rivet spinning in the hole
 
Paladin308 said:
I'm pretty sure if you use a block you have to permanently seal the floorplate of the mag for the mod to be considered "permanent"

That said, poking at those rivets is bad juju, it'll turn ya into a raving baby killer donchano.
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Can anyone confirm this? The sealing the floorplate part, not the raving baby killer part.
 
WRH said:
Can anyone confirm this? The sealing the floorplate part, not the raving baby killer part.
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Well, the raving baby killer part hardly needs confirmation. It comes straight from our magnanimous authoritarian overlords. Why would they lie to us?

Also, from http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/page-2.html#docCont

Part 4 section 3 subsection 4 and 5


  • (4) A cartridge magazine described in subsection (1) that has been altered or re-manufactured so that it is not capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be, of the type for which it was originally designed is not a prohibited device as prescribed by that subsection if the modification to the magazine cannot be easily removed and the magazine cannot be easily further altered so that it is so capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be.
  • (5) For the purposes of subsection (4), altering or re-manufacturing a cartridge magazine includes
    • (a) the indentation of its casing by forging, casting, swaging or impressing;
    • (b) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a steel or aluminum casing, the insertion and attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or aluminum, as the case may be, or of a similar material, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or
    • (c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.
 
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You could insert the block the way my Norc mags have it, with the block riveted to a plate wrapped around the base of the spring. Block is thereby permanently attached to the mag spring.
 
WRH said:
Can anyone confirm this? The sealing the floorplate part, not the raving baby killer part.
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No, nonsense. How are you supposed to clean the mag if the floor plate can't be removed!? The intent of the law is that your magazine capacity is no more than 10 and that it would not be an easy task to change that. There is no mention of Kryptonite, stick welders, super glue, Loctite, pop rivets, nuclear fission, flux capacitors or anything of the sort.

I'm not sure about the raving baby killer part, but I will tell you that if you remove the pop rivet creating a prohibited device, somewhere a kitten will cry.
 
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