P.08 Luger Magazines?

SIGP2101 said:
Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited or Restricted

SOR/98-462
CRIMINAL CODE

Cartridge Magazine Control Regulations


    • 3. (1) Any cartridge magazine


(3) Paragraph (1)(b) does not include any cartridge magazine that

  • (a) is of the “snail-drum” type (schneckentrommel) that was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a handgun known as the Parabellum-Pistol, System Borchardt-Luger, Model 1900, or “Luger”, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1902, Model 1904 (Marine), Model 1904/06 (Marine), Model 1904/08 (Marine), Model 1906, Model 1908 and Model 1908 (Artillery) pistols;
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Yes, I am well aware of this regulation. It clearly states "originally designed or manufactured" which the repo magazine clearly is not, as it is newly manufactured copying the original design.

I know these laws are silly, but the way it reads is that the original snail drum is OK, but a reproduction would be prohibited. This being said, I imagine if you could get one of these it to the country, you could probably pass it off as an original. Considering the penalty for possessing a prohibited device, personally I wouldn't risk it.
 
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raindog said:
I know these laws are silly, but the way it reads is that the original snail drum is OK, but a reproduction would be prohibited.
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With all due respect, if you read rest of the regulation, not just the paragraph I quoted, you will observe that legislators explicitly mention reproduction in every instance when they wanted reproduction to be prohibited device. In this exception case, quoted, they do not use that word. As the matter of fact all re-pro P08 snail drums fulfill all two condition listed;
1) is of the “snail-drum” type YES
2) originally designed (they are not some new types made out of composite materials like Glocks drum magazines for example, but they are based on original blue print design type II)

OR (means either one, not both, in which case they would put AND if they wanted to)

3) manufactured. Of-course they are manufactured. Meaning not being home made devices.



May stance is that law is what is written and it is not not open for free interpretation. Adding words like "newly manufactured" and base interpretation on that does not make sense. Law doesn't specify "recent manufactured", or "long time ago manufactured" either, It is being left out on purpose. There are high capacity magazines for P08 that are not based on original trommell magazine.
 
SIGP2101 said:
My stance is that law is what is written and it is not not open for free interpretation. .
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I am not a lawyer, so while I still think the intent was only to allow original snail drum magazines, perhaps your interpretation of this law is legally correct. The fact that reproduction magazines are not specifically mentioned is compelling, however these reproductions may not have been commonly available when this law was written therefore the need to indicate "not reproductions" was not required. I am somewhat surprised that if they really wanted to exempt repro's in this singular case, that they wouldn't have written something like "original or reproduction magazines of the "snail drum" type".

The big question is; how will the RCMP interpret this regulation?
 
Before the discussion goes too far off the rails, are reproduction snail drum mags even available?

Here's another take. M1 Garand En Bloc clips are also exempt even though they hold 8 rds. I'm pretty sure nobody has ever been busted for having a repro En Bloc clip.
 
MauserMike said:
Negative on the Lee Enfield as it is not semi automatic, there are no magazine restrictions period for bolt action centre fire rifles.
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I was referring to a number of experimental semi auto LEs in collectors hands for which exception is explicitly made in regulations.
 
ArtyMan,

These magazines are correct for a 1938 dated S/42 luger.
Stick Eagle (SE) over 83.



Interesting that the acceptance markings on this 1938 dated P.08 show SE 63 while the magazines show
SE 83.






1938 dated S/42 P.08.





Magazine markings 1938-1939 on P.08s --NOTE SE/83 instead of SE/63.
It depends on the S/N suffix in 1938 as to what is correct for your pistol.



INTERESTING-these magazines are from a 1937 S/42 P.08----they are marked SE/63 in the x suffix.
Something happened with Mauser between 1937 and 1938 to go from the SE/63 to the SE/83.
(SE is stick eagle----straight wings.)

As compared to the eagle shown on this 1938 Kreigsmarine (Navy) marked Model 1934 Mauser pistol.
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1937 dated Mauser S/42 P.08.





The blued P.08 mags.




This original snail drum (LP08) magazine is legal in Canada without restriction.






David
 
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