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just inherited a dillion 650 xl auto press with case feeder...........anyhow being a single stage ,accuracy, bolt gun guy this machine is intimidating..........anyone on here from the red deer area with expertise wanna come over to mine and help me set up ??????

work out a payment /trade of equal value .....feed ya dinner..... beer ....labour .....handgun bullets ....(about 600 in an hour or something crazy,lol)etc

thanx so much .

think i have everything for 45 LC,44 mag,45 auto and 9mm(not too concerned on the last)
 
I'm sure you'll find someone local to help you get it all figured out.

FWIW I have one and I use it to make my long range ammo (.308Win at 300-1000 yards). Mostly I use it as a single (or maybe two-station) press with an automatic casefeeder. Typical things I'll do with the press:

- neck sizing and priming my fired brass. I'll then put the primed cases in a loading block and throw powder charges using a bench-mounted BR-30 measure.

- full length sizing my brass. When I need to do this, I'll put my lubed brass into the casefeeder. Usually I'll only have a Redding body die in one of the stations, plus a special part I had made that goes into the toolhead's central hole which is used to adjust and precisely control exactly how much the shoulder is pushed back (the headspacing dimension on a .308 Win). Note that this leaves the primer in place and leaves the neck in the "fired" state. Then I'll put them through a vibratory cleaner to degrease them. Then I can neck size and prime them.

- seating my bullets. With a loading tray full of powder-charged primed cases, I set a bullet on top and put it into station #4, which has a seater die (Redding micrometer adjustable). Bullet gets seated, auto-advances and kicks out into bin.


Having a case feeder makes it possible to do all these things quickly efficiently and without bother. I've never bothered timing/measuring my production rate but it is easily several hundred per hour, used in the manner I've described.

If you don't need to full length size (or if you have new or already-sized brass available), and you are willing/able to use a toolhead-mounted powder measure (e.g. you are using ball powder and you are loading 600 yard ammo), you can comfortably and sustainably produce 1000 rounds per hour; it's kinda rewarding to do that at least occasionally.
 
thanx for the wisdom r-shooter. im sure ill re read this later on.

hey gotta quick question........you kinda answered it ,but can i use other /regular dies for the dillion ???? my rcbs, lee collets,etc etc so far ive only mounted it on the table and have to re organize a pile of brass and reloading stuff

thanx again .
 
You might find the threaded section on the body of some NON Dillon dies not long enough to adjust with the lock nut on the top.

You can get around this buy putting the lock nut on the bottom of the tool head.

GC
 
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Dillon offers an instructional dvd that goes over setup and operation.
I found it to be a big help. The shooting edge in calgary sells them for about 20 bucks
 
last night i slowly went thru the instructions and changed most (think i got it) of it over from 9mm to 45 long colt(what i decided to learn on/break it in) or small pistol to large pistol, pretty cool how once you start taking it apart it starts making sense , getting it.

right now my new question for you auto press/ 650 pros is do i have to have a seperate crimp die in tool thread number 5 or can i seat the bullet in number 4 and crimp the bullet at same time like i do with my single stage / with 3 -die set????

thanx for all your help guys.pm sent back fingers-ill take ya up on your offer
 
You can seat and crimp at the same time in station 4 if you like.

I load a lot of plated 9mm so I "prefer" to seat and crimp separately in stations 4 and 5.

GC
 
whats plated 9mm gas can ???? nickel plated ???

berry's, campro, frontier, and others use copper plated bullets instead of using a copper jacket which is thicker then plating. because the plating is thinner, you can cut the plating if you over crimp your cases.
 
berry's, campro, frontier, and others use copper plated bullets instead of using a copper jacket which is thicker then plating. because the plating is thinner, you can cut the plating if you over crimp your cases.

What SpI said.

The copper coating on lead plated bullets is quite thin (0.005-6") so if over crimp you can cut the plating. If you crimp and seat separately then you can adjust the OAL and crimp more precisely to your liking.

You have an extra station so might as well use it!!! Unless you cannot find or cannot afford an extra crimp die. I use a Lee factory crimp die all my pistol ammo on station 5.

GC
 
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