Russian capture mauser
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I dont quite know what you are asking.
Are you asking if RC mauser k98's are better than Brazilian/Swedish/VZ24/M48BO and other mauser variants?
If that is the question, then the answer is no. Its all preference based. If your into a german WW2 piece of history, then the RC is your best bet in terms of the mauser family. If your looking for accuracy and something that is well built, a swede is hard to beat for the price. They use different ammo though, and really is all about preference and what your looking for in a rifle (eg hunting, target shooting, collector). I can argue that a swede or a vz24 is better built than their RC counterpart, and the RC will be priced higher since it has more historical value attached to it in the market.
BTW RC kar98's are usually refered to k98's chambered in 8mm that were captured by the russians, and refurbed with mismatched parts. They are usually not refered to as a premium rifle. that goes to vet bring back all matching k98's that fetch much higher prices. They are common, but there are cheaper k98's out there like Isreali ones that have been converted to 7.62 and fetch lower prices due to the german markings being scrubbed.
Are you asking if RC mauser k98's are better than Brazilian/Swedish/VZ24/M48BO and other mauser variants?
If that is the question, then the answer is no. Its all preference based. If your into a german WW2 piece of history, then the RC is your best bet in terms of the mauser family. If your looking for accuracy and something that is well built, a swede is hard to beat for the price. They use different ammo though, and really is all about preference and what your looking for in a rifle (eg hunting, target shooting, collector). I can argue that a swede or a vz24 is better built than their RC counterpart, and the RC will be priced higher since it has more historical value attached to it in the market.
BTW RC kar98's are usually refered to k98's chambered in 8mm that were captured by the russians, and refurbed with mismatched parts. They are usually not refered to as a premium rifle. that goes to vet bring back all matching k98's that fetch much higher prices. They are common, but there are cheaper k98's out there like Isreali ones that have been converted to 7.62 and fetch lower prices due to the german markings being scrubbed.
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BeaverMeat
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So it begins, lol.
Dannyd123 has pretty much summed it up.
There's many collectors that want German firearms from the second war. So with original K98's becoming scarce or priced well into four figures, this new shipment of Russian captured weapons becoming available is quite possibly the last chance to buy one at a price under a grand.
For me personally I'll take a swede or a even an isreali in .308 for $300-400 anyway. All the fun of a RC K98 but at half the price.
But then again I'm a target shooter first and a collector second.
There's only 3 ways to fix your problem!!
1- buy every gun you find, go broke and be the homeless guy pushing a stollen shopping cart full of sweet rifles.
2- stop using cgn, and cancel your pass to the EE and take up a square hobby like golf
3- join milsurp collectors anonymous or as we call it the MCA.
I'm in step 5 of the MCA program. Step 5 is the "I know I can't own them all", in this stage you buy only one rifle and then pass on the next several that are offered to you.
Step 6 is a hard one and it's called "I have enough rifles"
Step 7 is a big one, it's the "ok I have too many milsurp rifles, I should sell some"
Step 8 is "Now I have just the right amount of rifles"
Step 9 and 10 involve panic and involve the buying of more rifles I think? I still haven't read that part of the MCA booklet, but I'm guessing if you sell a bunch of rifles then you'll have a bunch of money to buy more right?
"My name is Tinman204 and I have a milsurp addiction""
This gun thing started out as a simple feavor inside me now its went airborne and I am in total pandemic and brad pit is flying aroud trying to find a cure...
...you know your in deep $#! T wen the only thing multiplying faster then your gun collection is the guns on your wish list!
...you know your in deep $#! T wen the only thing multiplying faster then your gun collection is the guns on your wish list!
Problem with the RC is that the parts are mis-matched and perhaps more importantly, ill-fitting.
Fit between action, stock and floor plate are important to the accuracy and trigger function of the mauser.
Mixing parts from all the manufacturers from over the production time span, and the little changes each factory made from 1933 to 1945 in different countries can and does cause many bedding problems.
Fit between action, stock and floor plate are important to the accuracy and trigger function of the mauser.
Mixing parts from all the manufacturers from over the production time span, and the little changes each factory made from 1933 to 1945 in different countries can and does cause many bedding problems.
"My name is svt1940 and i am milsurp addicted. I joined MCA but i fail every steps of the cure so i give up and figured out that i couldn't live without my milsurp addiction problem. The only cure i found is buying a Springfield 1903 last week"There's only 3 ways to fix your problem!!
1- buy every gun you find, go broke and be the homeless guy pushing a stollen shopping cart full of sweet rifles.
2- stop using cgn, and cancel your pass to the EE and take up a square hobby like golf
3- join milsurp collectors anonymous or as we call it the MCA.
I'm in step 5 of the MCA program. Step 5 is the "I know I can't own them all", in this stage you buy only one rifle and then pass on the next several that are offered to you.
Step 6 is a hard one and it's called "I have enough rifles"
Step 7 is a big one, it's the "ok I have too many milsurp rifles, I should sell some"
Step 8 is "Now I have just the right amount of rifles"
Step 9 and 10 involve panic and involve the buying of more rifles I think? I still haven't read that part of the MCA booklet, but I'm guessing if you sell a bunch of rifles then you'll have a bunch of money to buy more right?
"My name is Tinman204 and I have a milsurp addiction""
Ok back on topic, i bought a RC mauser many years ago for $300 and i love it! The bore is excellent too.
Joce
Tell me about it, I just ordered a K31 and two Mosin Nagants for the collection. Just had to have one with a hex receiver AND a wartime production gun. And I still haven't told the wifey about that Tokarev with the Ishy grips on it...
As for the RC's, their value is based on the fact that they are guaranteed to have seen action on the Russian Front and the now high prices of most German wartime memorabilia. Odds are you can get a much nicer example of a K98 from the Czechs or South America but it won't have the history of one of the pivitol moments in WWII behind it.
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samsplacci71
Regular
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- Toronto area
Congrats, you're now suffering you seem to be suffering from "mauseritis". It's all in great fun. I stumbled onto milsurps myself, due to the attraction of cheaply priced Soviet era rifles...fast forward 2 years, and now I have 2 full cabinets...
Luckily, I have limited funds to part with. As far as Mausers go, there is nothing wrong with a RC rifle. I have a RC K98, shoots like a dream and has a great bore...though now I have come to terms with my addiction as I currently have 5 Mausers (Yugo M48BO, K98, 2x M96 Swedes and a M38 Swede). I might be in one of those steps identified by Tinman204. Don't be surprised if your milsurp journey changes from time to time.
Luckily, I have limited funds to part with. As far as Mausers go, there is nothing wrong with a RC rifle. I have a RC K98, shoots like a dream and has a great bore...though now I have come to terms with my addiction as I currently have 5 Mausers (Yugo M48BO, K98, 2x M96 Swedes and a M38 Swede). I might be in one of those steps identified by Tinman204. Don't be surprised if your milsurp journey changes from time to time.
I wasn't much into surplus rifles myself until I bought a cheap swede because I fancied a 6.5x55 rifle, and the ones with the diopters were so reasonable.
Saturday I bought a Finnish M91 at a gun show, and on Sunday my first group with it was 2" at 75m with cast reloads. So now I think I'm going to focus on Finn Mosins
To put icing on the cake, my old uncle took one look at it and said it is the one he hand picked from a crate at either SIR or UAS here in town years ago, and he bought it brand new in the grease, complete with test target. He recognized the crate kisses on the stock.
That's just plain satisfying on several levels.
Saturday I bought a Finnish M91 at a gun show, and on Sunday my first group with it was 2" at 75m with cast reloads. So now I think I'm going to focus on Finn Mosins
To put icing on the cake, my old uncle took one look at it and said it is the one he hand picked from a crate at either SIR or UAS here in town years ago, and he bought it brand new in the grease, complete with test target. He recognized the crate kisses on the stock.
That's just plain satisfying on several levels.
For the majority perhaps.
I have seen some problem cases where it looked like some ex-commissar turned capitalistic manager saw bins of Mauser parts and told employees to put together rifles so they could sell them off.
As far as the RC rifles go, I would suggest that m/m numbers are irrelevant. These rifles are historical artifacts; they are what they are.
Same with the Israeli reworks.
Or Spanish 93s with m/m bolts. A m/m bolt pretty much means that the rifle was used during the Civil War. The bolts were stored in separate arsenals, and when things went from bad to worse, no one was worrying about matching numbers.
Same with the Israeli reworks.
Or Spanish 93s with m/m bolts. A m/m bolt pretty much means that the rifle was used during the Civil War. The bolts were stored in separate arsenals, and when things went from bad to worse, no one was worrying about matching numbers.
MauserMike
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- SW Ontario
Me too Joce, from Jean at P&S Militaria. Amazing how much they have gone up in value already. Even 5 years ago people were saying they were just lousy mismatched rifles
