Buying New Gun tomorrow. Need some last minute advice.

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Hey guys,


I'm heading out to pick up my first rimfire tomorrow and I think I've narrowed it down to two different guns,

The savage mark II G - wood stock, blued barrel and accutrigger. ($200)


A ruger 10/22 wood stock, not a take down model or anything ($300)

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I plan on picking up a scope later on as I get Nikon Employee pricing . And I'm looking at this one here
http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/...25/PROSTAFF-3-9x40-Rimfire-Matte-BDC-150.html

Is that a solid choice or is there a better value out there? Assuming I can get it for $120 plus tax....


I have a few questions;

1.
After buying the gun is there any maintenance that will need to be done immediately?

2.
Can I take it directly to the range and shoot?

3.
How much am I looking to spend on targets for a day to the range?

4.
Its not against the rules, but is it against range etiquette to shoot clay pigeons laid on a target with a .22?

5.
what can I substitute for a make shift bench rest at the range. I am provided with a table only.

6.
How long should I spend cleaning it ?

7.
Can I put it back in its case after I'm finished then drive an ~hour or so to my house and clean it. Or should I clean it at the range?

8.
There is a high likelyhood I will be alone at the range or will be using with 1 or 2 other people. Is it ok for me to deny the responsibility of range safety operator even based on the fact I'm inexperienced? I.E. if I show up first before anyone else arrives then members show up.

9.
For .22 application, if there much difference between a $30 bipod and a $200 bipod?

10.
Any tips or tricks for a newbie? Any mistakes I shouldn't make?
 
1. take the bolt out and wipe it clean. run a cleaning tool thru the bore.
2. go to a range where you are a member.
3. Evidently you have a computer and printer...go to targets.com and choose one and print a dozen.
4. Clean up your mess after you are finished. Ask other members if they mind.
5. Make your own rest out of scrap 2x8 pieces one flat one screwed on upright with a padded v-notch.
6.it does not take long to run a few cloths thru the barrel ..i personally run a bore snake only a couple times.
7. clean at home where you are not rushed.
8. One of the older members should act as supervisor. They know the routine.
9. I have had my $30 bipods for many years and not a single problem. Names do not mean they are better if treated the way they should be.
10.At the range, listen to older members, always have barrel pointed downrange ...unload if you have to leave the gun position at any time. do not touch the gun if someone is downrange. ..never walk onto the range til given permission by range officer.

Hope some of this helps...and enjoy this great sport. the savage bolt is the better for your first gun. saftey first as it has to be manually loaded unlike the semis. and bolts are inherently more accurate.
 
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10/22 and Savage bolt are 2 very different guns. Long story short, buy the Savage and learn to shoot with discipline. That's in no way a knock against the 10/22, I believe fundamentals are quicker learned with a bolt gun, but that's a faceless opinion ;). If this is your first gun, it should be accurate, another pro Savage. That is a knock against the 10/22 :).

1- Maintanance; wipe the bore and lube the bolt. Go shoot, you'll be fine.
2- see above
3-Targets; free. Print from home or just draw a happy face on an old shoe box. Clean your mess.
4-Clay; rules say it ok, then it's ok.
5-Bench rest; you saved $100 buying the better gun, spend some on a bipod. ;)
6-Cleaning time; as fast as possible, you got shooting to do. 5-10 minutes will take care of it.
7-Clean before transport; no, drive home, disassemble and clean properly.
8-RO; if someone else comes in, explain you're new and have them show you the ropes.
9-Bipod cost; I'll get attacked for this, buy the $30 model. The only difference you notice is the $170. When you get better, get better gear.
10-Tips/advise; Ask questions. Familiarize yourself with your gun before you even open your ammo. Have fun and be safe, the rest will fall in to place.
 
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Normally when you have a semi-auto .22 vrs a bolt gun its no contest ,bolt everytime.however this doesn't apply to ruger 10/22. they will feed almost any ammo and can be incredibly accurate.so
-what do you want to do with it? target only?-for out of the box accuracy the bolt will win- accu trigger will help that.if you want a rifle to build on for a fun project with stunning results (looks and accuracy) the ruger is a better choice.
1- ask the retailer to run a snake through the rifle
2-if buying a scope at the same time ask the retailer to bore sight it for you,you will have ti fine tune it but it will be close
3-?how much you want to spend
4-most clubs don't want there rails shot up & most guys don't clean up after themselves - don't be that guy
5-most clubs have sand/shooting bags- small back pack works great and is good hunting practise
6-utube is your friend
muzzle direction,muzzle direction ,muzzle direction,finger of the trigger until your ready to shoot,keep the action open so everyone can see you've proved it safe.remember to have fun
 
Winnipeg Toymaker said:
1. take the bolt out and wipe it clean. run a cleaning tool thru the bore.
2. go to a range where you are a member.
3. Evidently you have a computer and printer...go to targets.com and choose one and print a dozen.
4. Clean up your mess after you are finished. Ask other members if they mind.
5. Make your own rest out of scrap 2x8 pieces one flat one screwed on upright with a padded v-notch.
6.it does not take long to run a few cloths thru the barrel ..i personally run a bore snake only a couple times.
7. clean at home where you are not rushed.
8. One of the older members should act as supervisor. They know the routine.
9. I have had my $30 bipods for many years and not a single problem. Names do not mean they are better if treated the way they should be.
10.At the range, listen to older members, always have barrel pointed downrange ...unload if you have to leave the gun position at any time. do not touch the gun if someone is downrange. ..never walk onto the range til given permission by range officer.

Hope some of this helps...and enjoy this great sport. the savage bolt is the better for your first gun. saftey first as it has to be manually loaded unlike the semis. and bolts are inherently more accurate.
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Thanks! I should have mentioned I am a member of a club already.
 
Always clean and inspect a new or used firearm before firing. Always! There will usually be anything from a light preserving oil to a gummy, congealed grease in the bore as well as the action to prevent rust until the rifle gets to its owner. That stuff will make an abhorrent mess if you shoot the rifle before cleaning. Excessive fluid can cause bulges in the barrel. There can be packing materials from the box that get in the bore and some even have dessicant packs in the chamber. IIRC 10/22s have a piece of a zip tie in the chamber. Now the stuff in the action may not be a lubricant. The stuff in 10/22s is not and is oiled way to heavy. It will quickly gum up and cause malfunctions. I make it a point to clean and inspect every new gun whether its brand new or used. I've found everything from congealed oil, sand, twigs, dirt, rust, broken parts etc on used guns and a lot of gummy crap and partial obstructions in brand new rifles. There's tons of YouTube videos and illustrated articles on all popular guns to keep you out of trouble. You're going to have to clean it eventually so might as well learn right off the bat and get familiar with the rifle in the process. As for your two choices they are both good right out of the box. The Savage will shoot a little better and the Ruger is fun for spraying a lot of lead. Both are common, easy to work on and have lots of upgrades available.
 
broadhead67 said:
Normally when you have a semi-auto .22 vrs a bolt gun its no contest ,bolt everytime.however this doesn't apply to ruger 10/22. they will feed almost any ammo and can be incredibly accurate.so
-what do you want to do with it? target only?-for out of the box accuracy the bolt will win- accu trigger will help that.if you want a rifle to build on for a fun project with stunning results (looks and accuracy) the ruger is a better choice.
1- ask the retailer to run a snake through the rifle
2-if buying a scope at the same time ask the retailer to bore sight it for you,you will have ti fine tune it but it will be close
3-?how much you want to spend
4-most clubs don't want there rails shot up & most guys don't clean up after themselves - don't be that guy
5-most clubs have sand/shooting bags- small back pack works great and is good hunting practise
6-utube is your friend
muzzle direction,muzzle direction ,muzzle direction,finger of the trigger until your ready to shoot,keep the action open so everyone can see you've proved it safe.remember to have fun
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I'm goign to be 90% range use, and 10% small game. I am torn between the ruger and the savage because they both seem to be a whole lot of bang for the buck. I know that I won't be too concerned about accuracy right away, as I will need to actually develop skill before I can outshoot the stock barrel on the the 10/22 not to mention the savage. I know the savage is more accurate, but I like how I can customize the ruger.

As for money, anywhere between 500-600 before taxes on the complete set up
 
If it where me I'd buy the ruger...

1. After buying the gun is there any maintenance that will need to be done immediately?
Nope but its not a bad idea to run a boresnake or a patch down the bore before going rambo

2. Can I take it directly to the range and shoot?
Pretty much

3. How much am I looking to spend on targets for a day to the range?
Pick up some crappy golf balls and a pack or 2 splattering targets( 1 package is like 8$)

4. Its not against the rules, but is it against range etiquette to shoot clay pigeons laid on a target with a .22?
Every one does it but its surprisingly uneventful with a 22.

5. what can I substitute for a make shift bench rest at the range. I am provided with a table only.
I use a full box of bulk ammo and the open box i am using... maybe a sand bag on top of that.

6. How long should I spend cleaning it ?
Buy a boresnake (canadian tire 20$) cuts cleaning time drastically... 10min max

7. Can I put it back in its case after I'm finished then drive an ~hour or so to my house and clean it. Or should I clean it at the range?
Definitely can wait until you get home some say for accuracy you shouldn't clean them till they start jamming

8. There is a high likelyhood I will be alone at the range or will be using with 1 or 2 other people. Is it ok for me to deny the responsibility of range safety operator even based on the fact I'm inexperienced? I.E. if I show up first before anyone else arrives then members show up.
When and if they ask say not it unless you feel they are unsafe then take over would not hurt to say your new

9. For .22 application, if there much difference between a $30 bipod and a $200 bipod?
No comment im still using ammo boxes though i doubt it makes a huge difference...

10. Any tips or tricks for a newbie? Any mistakes I shouldn't make?
bring more than one brand of ammo, bring a cleaning rod to check the bore and be safe & have fun
 
Id buy the MarkII over the ruger, they are wayy more accurate, you have to put alot of money into em if you want an accurate gun. As for cleaning, quick wipe when you get it and clean it after that when it seems to get dirty enough to make something act up or your accuracy goes all over the place. Ammo, bring many kinds, they ususally like some more then others. And for a .22 a bipod is up to you, for any major target shooting competion, the $100 one is a big difference in the $30 piece, the cheaper they are the more they will flex under pressure.
 
I had a 10/22 as my first rimfire, then sold it to buy a MKII since I became more concerned with accuracy, and then sold the MKII to get a CZ 455 Varmint since I wanted better accuracy and a nicer looking gun.

But I will say that the Savage will save you a lot more on ammo costs since you wont be tempted to just dump a mag like you would with the 10/22.
 
The correct answer is buy both ... It's an apples and oranges comparison.

The 10/22 is a blast to shoot and you will find yourself putting allot of rounds through it so buy the cheap stuff. All the other advice is spot on.

Go have fun.
 
Savage MkII G was by first rifle. I love the rifle and would recommend going that route. The scope seems like a good start for a first rifle. Good on you for asking good questions.
 
Update on the purchase ;

Walked in to find one of my very good buddies there working.

Walked out with


1.Savage mark ii right hand shot with natural would stock and standard blued barrel.

2. 3-9x40 busnell banner scope

3. Boresnake

4. 2 boxes cci stingers

5. Box of Remington yellowjackets

7. Box of Winchester ammo

8. 2 other boxes of ammo I forget

9. 135 clays

10. Vanguard bipod

11. 2 rifle case

12. 20 targets

13. Small game licence

14. Coyote licence

there's possibly some other stuff I'm missing, but rest assured that at just over 400 tax in I got a great deal!
 
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