At "The Rock".... Again.
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The rifle should be fully unloaded before re-slinging
The RO should be paying close attention to the mag coming out and the round being ejected. He should also be paying attention to muzzle direction.
Where the RO & cameraman were standing is irrelevant.
I could find no reference to a 'stick' in the match rules.
The gun was not being abandoned, so I assume that slinging is equivalent to re-holstering?
Muzzles can break the 'safety plane' while holstered or re-holstering. This allows for a few degrees latitude during that process, and in the cant of a holster. Whether slung muzzle up or down, a few degrees in any direction off vertical would not be considered an unsafe direction. That rifle was clearly pointed up range - parallel to the ground.
I'm not arguing this shooter be DQ'd. I have no horse in this race. I'm gearing up to shoot US 3G matches. The only one I've shot was at EESA where each gun was used on a different day. I believe you were there. I'm just wondering what's acceptable at different matches. 3G or MultiGun rules typically run about 2 - 3 pages, where IPSC/USPSA rules go on & on like the EverReady Bunny.
Cheers.
I could find no reference to a 'stick' in the match rules.
The gun was not being abandoned, so I assume that slinging is equivalent to re-holstering?
Muzzles can break the 'safety plane' while holstered or re-holstering. This allows for a few degrees latitude during that process, and in the cant of a holster. Whether slung muzzle up or down, a few degrees in any direction off vertical would not be considered an unsafe direction. That rifle was clearly pointed up range - parallel to the ground.
You could say that yes, re slinging a long gun during a CoF is the same as re holstering pistol, but... At these matches a "hot" pistol is never re holstered.
As pointed out by banger... The rifle was emptied/made safe before it broke any safety plane. It may not be "written" in the rules per se, but it was made very clear at the match brief/stage brief what constituted a "stick".
On a related note... On that stage (and others) the brief stated that the pistol was to be "loaded and holstered" at the start... Many shooters, myself included opted to just insert a mag and leave the chamber of the pistol empty at the start. This meant I was holstering a "rock". If the pistol fell out of the holster during the CoF... It would mean an embarassing delay whilst I picked it up, but no DQ. The only condition was that "if" I opted for the "cold" start on the holstered gun, I could not rack it until I was inside the shoot house. Weighing the options... I was fine with that.
Perhaps at another match... One with different rules I would have been, but not at BRM3G where an empty gun is a stick.
Well then one thing you're going to have to get used to what many MD's down there refer to as "big boy rules".
The floating 180, Pre loading and racking of shotguns, having stage staff clear and move your abandoned guns behind you. Some of the targetry would make "some" of us poop a brick (the shoot house targets were IPSC paper stapled to a rubber faced, armour plate backer at a range of 2-3 feet).
These are all things done at these US matches. Compared to how we do things here at home it "may" seem a little hairy to some, but... in my opinion there is nothing inherantly "un-safe" in how these 3-gun matches are run.
Well... Just read the rules and pay attenton during the match brief/stage brief and you'll be fine.
'Been to many of these matches and haven't been DQ'd yet... 'Been close though ;-)
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Yes... banger, bersmith and I were actually the first to register
The MD, who was actually on our squad at BRM3G last week opened up registration for international shooters a while ago... Words is she's got teams from the UK, Finland and even Norway coming...
I'm sure if you put in an app. you'll get a spot.
The MD, who was actually on our squad at BRM3G last week opened up registration for international shooters a while ago... Words is she's got teams from the UK, Finland and even Norway coming...
I'm sure if you put in an app. you'll get a spot.
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Yep the match rules are a must read. The 3GN rule book is around 7 pages long, but the club Match Director adds and removes stuff as they see fit.
In Texas if you burned a round from your shotgun unto the backstop in stead of manually clearing it or putting it on safe before abandoning it in the barrel it was a match DQ! It was the first time I've seen that one so I was extra careful there.
Well....
I recall one 4-gun match I held where one of the guys who volunteered to come up with and run a stage had shooters shoot from the back of a moving pickup truck.
What he failed to consider is that he'd have to chase (on foot) that truck as it made it's way up and down the 50 yards of range.
So... 50 yards x 2 x approx 50 shooters... I'd say the poor bastard ran about 5km that day.
