Gun of the Week: UTAS UTS-15 Shotgun

Seems like a pretty neat shotgun. Nice to see someone have some good things to say abou it for a change. Not exactly my cup of tea I don't think. Looks kind of blocky to me. I like the option to switch mag tubes though.
 
Its a fun gun and I love mine but its not reliable sadly. Mine has a tendency to drop a shell in vertically or it won't cycle the empty casing out. Issues don't happen all the time but it happens more than all my other firearms combined. I've tried a half dozen different manufacturers as well as bird shot, target loads, slugs, buck shot, double 00 buck, etc.. nothing seems to cure the issue. I'm tempted to send it back for warranty since its almost winter anyways. Also the camo flakes off so I wouldn't recommend spending the extra money. I am extremely delicate with my utas because I don't want anymore of the camo to flake off but it still happens, I don't think the camo material is meant to be attached to polymer. I would like to see some sort of a foam or rubber covering on the pistol grip, with slugs that polymer grip really tears into the skin.

In the end its a fun gun but I wouldn't be reaching for it in a home defense scenario and I wouldn't use it in any competition until the feeding issues are solved.

I still have the packaging so maybe I could send it back to you guys and see if there's something you can do about it before I try warrantying it?
 
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Just got mine, and I have 700 rounds through it with only 1 FTF, I don't know where all these issues are coming from. Most of the issues I have seen are user error.
 
^ it's a pump shotgun, friend, a gun you should never have any malfunction.

You guys are pimping these real hard but I just don't think they appeal. Don't have the sleek look of the ksg, looks to be highly impractical to reload, and reliability/quality issues are the last nail in the coffin. As your attorney I advise you to cut your losses. Maybe there's a war somewhere who could use them?
 
YoungGunz said:
Its a fun gun and I love mine but its not reliable sadly. Mine has a tendency to drop a shell in vertically or it won't cycle the empty casing out. Issues don't happen all the time but it happens more than all my other firearms combined. I've tried a half dozen different manufacturers as well as bird shot, target loads, slugs, buck shot, double 00 buck, etc.. nothing seems to cure the issue. I'm tempted to send it back for warranty since its almost winter anyways. Also the camo flakes off so I wouldn't recommend spending the extra money. I am extremely delicate with my utas because I don't want anymore of the camo to flake off but it still happens, I don't think the camo material is meant to be attached to polymer. I would like to see some sort of a foam or rubber covering on the pistol grip, with slugs that polymer grip really tears into the skin.

In the end its a fun gun but I wouldn't be reaching for it in a home defense scenario and I wouldn't use it in any competition until the feeding issues are solved.I still have the packaging so maybe I could send it back to you guys and see if there's something you can do about it before I try warrantying it?
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A lot of times the feeding issue is not racking the action forcefully enough (the gentleman in the video even mentions this). These shotguns need to be cycled with intent, not gently. Also check your barrel nut, it needs to be tightened down very very tight, that can cause the non cycling of the empty shell. We are the warranty center for these, if you want to contact us at sales@wolverinesupplies.com and just tell them you want to talk to grumpy about your shotgun I'll be glad to help you out. We'll get it working for you so you can use it in competition. I'll check to see to if your shotgun is from the batch that needs the monoblock upgrade done to it. I'm going to be running one next season in the matches.
 
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CousinTony said:
^ it's a pump shotgun, friend, a gun you should never have any malfunction.

You guys are pimping these real hard but I just don't think they appeal. Don't have the sleek look of the ksg, looks to be highly impractical to reload, and reliability/quality issues are the last nail in the coffin. As your attorney I advise you to cut your losses. Maybe there's a war somewhere who could use them?
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Seeing as how you are in our neck of the woods, stop by the shop and I'll put one in your hands. We can go out back and you can run some rounds through it and tell me what you think once you have had a chance to actually use one. The reloading is different than some other models, but once you're used to it you can really recharge it fairly quickly. The reliability issues have been fixed in the last batch we have and we have been working on upgrading the existing shotguns to the new specs. I've seen ALL makes and models of shotguns new and old malfunction at one point in time or another, some from mechanical issues and a lot of the time from a user error.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
If I didn't know you better I would swear you are trying to stir things up! I guess that is what I have to expect when you have a "slow day" at work, remind me to get Guy to work you harder tomorrow!
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Hear you loud and clear Mr Wolverine. Watch out Grumpy:)
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
Seeing as how you are in our neck of the woods, stop by the shop and I'll put one in your hands. We can go out back and you can run some rounds through it and tell me what you think once you have had a chance to actually use one. The reloading is different than some other models, but once you're used to it you can really recharge it fairly quickly. The reliability issues have been fixed in the last batch we have and we have been working on upgrading the existing shotguns to the new specs. I've seen ALL makes and models of shotguns new and old malfunction at one point in time or another, some from mechanical issues and a lot of the time from a user error.
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I might have to take you up on that... You don't seem that grumpy after all.
 
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Honestly I too think your trying to push them too much now. They have a bad record of having many issues and your probably stuck with a container of them because they aren't selling as a result of the issues. Better drop the price to cost with free shipping. :stirthepot2:
 
mildcustom2 said:
Honestly I too think your trying to push them too much now.
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He's a salesman and is doing his job damn well! When these guns first came out I heard all the reviews and didn't think much of them. But with how hard Wolverine is pushing them and how professional they're being with fixing the issues, i'd by lying if I said I wasn't intrigued.
 
JeffFromCanada said:
He's a salesman and is doing his job damn well! When these guns first came out I heard all the reviews and didn't think much of them. But with how hard Wolverine is pushing them and how professional they're being with fixing the issues, i'd by lying if I said I wasn't intrigued.
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We really aren't salesmen at Wolverine. None of us make a commission. The majority of us have no background in sales at all. We are just a bunch of folks with a passion for the shooting sports. Most of us have been shooting from the time we were children. All of us either used to compete in various types of shooting matches regularly or still do We would rather see someone walk out of the store happy and empty handed than to leave with something that wasn't right for them or something they didn't want.

I may seem to be pimping these shotguns but that really isn't the case. I'm just trying to show that these really are a good firearm. I've held them. I've shot many rounds through them. I've taken them down and seen what makes them tick. I thought I'd share my thoughts on them to try and counter the opinions of others that in a lot of cases are based on watching a couple of old outdated videos on an American made first run firearm. If we never sold another one of these shotguns I would still be telling people in ten years time that I think they are a good firearm.

Trust me when I say that anyone who knows me will says that I call a spade a spade and if I thought these weren't that great, I'd be the first one telling the boss and anyone who asks. You don't get a nickname like mine by being all sweet, smiley and going with the flow. :evil:
 
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I believe I am #4 on the tester ( road show ) list. The weld on the ring that holds the barrel on mine broke, right from the get go. So I did not get much of a chance to play with my UTS15.
I have a KSG now . While it is very nice shotgun and a pile of fun , it is no 870.
I will to my best to do a review and a comparison . Then post it here .
One thing the UTS has going for it is , you do not have to switch from one tube to the next , like the KSG.
So the UTS should be able to go through 15 rounds way quicker. If that is something that you are interested in.
I have not tried 3 gun , but I have been told this is important in these competitions ?
Excuse any typos and spelling , I have had a couple of long difficult days , and I am probably to burnt out to be posting on here.
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
A lot of times the feeding issue is not racking the action forcefully enough (the gentleman in the video even mentions this). These shotguns need to be cycled with intent, not gently. Also check your barrel nut, it needs to be tightened down very very tight, that can cause the non cycling of the empty shell. We are the warranty center for these, if you want to contact us at sales@wolverinesupplies.com and just tell them you want to talk to grumpy about your shotgun I'll be glad to help you out. We'll get it working for you so you can use it in competition. I'll check to see to if your shotgun is from the batch that needs the monoblock upgrade done to it. I'm going to be running one next season in the matches.
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I would say that yes there's a possibility of it not being cycled properly the 11th or 12th time in a rapid fire fashion but all to often its the 2nd or 3rd shot when I'm firing at a normal rate. When I got the gun from the very beginning it would fire the round and then it was impossible to pull the slide back more than a few inches, it was like something was catching but there were no markings on the casing or anywhere else that I could find. I would have to take the gun in half to get the thing back to normal, this persisted for maybe a dozen attempts and after awhile it stopped but now there are chips in the plastic right at the ejection port where the shell would sit before its cycled forward. Its maybe had 300 rounds through it in its life, i barely get time to go out and shoot/I still don't have a optic for it. If I get time maybe I can shoot a video of it, knowing my luck the thing will function flawlessly.

Anyways I won't go into anymore detail but I'll look at the barrel nut and make sure its really on there good. The guns gotten better with time but I don't think that's due to me getting used to it. I've had probably a half dozen people try it and the issues were frequent for them as well but as time went on more of the new shooters never had the problems that were originally there. That being said, its still not performing as well as it should still. If it didn't look and feel so amazing I would've shipped it back a long time ago.

It is one of the earlier ones, I was the second order I believe (April order). I'll shoot off an email early next week once I'm home with photos of the area I think is causing the sticking issue as well as the camo flaking. You didn't mention anything about the camo so I don't know if this is a common problem with all guns or just this one but it was $200 so if there's anything that can be done I'd appreciate that as well.

Thanks for the response and I hope I didn't cost you any sales with my post, just being honest. :)
 
YoungGunz said:
I would say that yes there's a possibility of it not being cycled properly the 11th or 12th time in a rapid fire fashion but all to often its the 2nd or 3rd shot when I'm firing at a normal rate. When I got the gun from the very beginning it would fire the round and then it was impossible to pull the slide back more than a few inches, it was like something was catching but there were no markings on the casing or anywhere else that I could find. I would have to take the gun in half to get the thing back to normal, this persisted for maybe a dozen attempts and after awhile it stopped but now there are chips in the plastic right at the ejection port where the shell would sit before its cycled forward. Its maybe had 300 rounds through it in its life, i barely get time to go out and shoot/I still don't have a optic for it. If I get time maybe I can shoot a video of it, knowing my luck the thing will function flawlessly.

Anyways I won't go into anymore detail but I'll look at the barrel nut and make sure its really on there good. The guns gotten better with time but I don't think that's due to me getting used to it. I've had probably a half dozen people try it and the issues were frequent for them as well but as time went on more of the new shooters never had the problems that were originally there. That being said, its still not performing as well as it should still. If it didn't look and feel so amazing I would've shipped it back a long time ago.

It is one of the earlier ones, I was the second order I believe (April order). I'll shoot off an email early next week once I'm home with photos of the area I think is causing the sticking issue as well as the camo flaking. You didn't mention anything about the camo so I don't know if this is a common problem with all guns or just this one but it was $200 so if there's anything that can be done I'd appreciate that as well.

Thanks for the response and I hope I didn't cost you any sales with my post, just being honest. :)
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When you get a second shoot an email to sales@wolverinesupplies.com attention Grumpy and we will get it all worked out for you.
 
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