Second that.
Sub $500, 9mm recommendations for 1st pistol?
- Thread starter Knuckles Muldoon
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Second that.
wayupnorth
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while i love my Glock 17C i wouldn't recommend a used one as a sub $500 first gun.
why inherit someone else problems?
if your gonna pick up your first pistol get a new one, its the whole new car smell thing.
i still have my first..... Ruger P89, couple times a year we sneak off to the range together and relive our youth.
why inherit someone else problems?
if your gonna pick up your first pistol get a new one, its the whole new car smell thing.
i still have my first..... Ruger P89, couple times a year we sneak off to the range together and relive our youth.
Gen 4 is in my opinion a new pistol from Glock and it was already mentioned - it had pretty rough start. Biggest forum on the net of the Glock owners pistols is still reporting some sporadic issues with Gen 4, especially in 9mm. Again, in my opinion, the previous model with the proven track record was discontinued with Gen 3. Gen 3 fits me just fine, so I don't need to "upgrade" to the next generation. If it fits You better, go for it.
Looks like Wanstalls has Glock Gen3:
http://www.wanstallsonline.com/glock/
But at $699, it prices itself quickly out of the original criteria of a 'sub $500' pistol. Funny how this happens often and prices escalate within this sport!
http://www.wanstallsonline.com/glock/
But at $699, it prices itself quickly out of the original criteria of a 'sub $500' pistol. Funny how this happens often and prices escalate within this sport!
Blastattack
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Not sure if it has been mentioned, but Trigger Wholesale brought in a bunch of used Italian made Beretta 92FS. They seem to be selling for just over $500.
At risk of being repetitive, I've been super impressed with the Girsan Remedy MC (Yavuz 16). At under $500 brand-new, it's build quality has been excellent. I can understand if there's a desire for an original Beretta - there's value there. But if it's the overall look and feel of the gun, the Girsan is a solid choice.
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Why would you not recommend a used Glock? They work or they don't. I doubt if any "used" Glocks in Canada have ever seen any real use. In fact, I've bought no less than four "used" glocks from this forum and none of them had any appreciable wear marks. All run like a boring Glock does.
Its called gouging, its a Canadian business past time..
The original Beretta is a sub par pistol, I can't imagine a copy being equal let alone better.
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If you're saying that the Beretta is a sub-par pistol in relation to others, that's a fair enough opinion. But any pistol that emulates the style of another is automatically extra sub-par?
I'm not saying that the Girsan is all that and more. I Don't own any Girsan stock and I don't have any particular emotional attachment. But personally I love the styling of the Beretta, and the small changes the Girsan made( such as finger grooves on the front strap) combined with quality that is above that of the standard Norinco, made it an excellent value for me.
Beating norinco qc is nothing to brag about. No offense, but turkey is far from being a well known and/or cutting edge arms manufacturer. The fact they're copying a poor design speaks volumes. If the look is what you're after I would stick with the original.
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wayupnorth
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i just really didnt wanna start a glock suck's side track from the original thread.
to be honest my glock only comes out of the safe once or twice a year ever since i got my M&P's.
i just cant drive a Volvo when i have a Lotus parked right beside it.
but i would never buy a used anything.
if its worth me putting out the money for it ill buy brand new and have the warranty with it and the original sales receipt.
I have heard very little about the Girsan, though it seems to definitely be in the lower price range. Quality...I don't know. I wouldn't mind hearing from some owners on these. I have seldom heard a bad comment about the Glock 17. Since they seem to hold a great deal of resale value I would personally spend the extra bit and get a new one. Not only because you will know the whole history on it but you won't have to go through the BS transferring between private owners. Having a warranty is a good thing too.
If this has been mentioned in the last 15 pages, I apologize.
I would suggest one of the Viking pistols by Baikal. It's the commercial equivalent of the newer Russian Army service pistol. I own a steel frame one which is going for approx $550. Rugged, tough and accurate. A great value for the money IMO.
The polymer frame one is in the $450 range currently at Interammo.
I would suggest one of the Viking pistols by Baikal. It's the commercial equivalent of the newer Russian Army service pistol. I own a steel frame one which is going for approx $550. Rugged, tough and accurate. A great value for the money IMO.
The polymer frame one is in the $450 range currently at Interammo.
^^No, I haven't used the polymer framed variant--but I really like my steel framed one. Hmmm.....I would compare it's appearance (and block-like appearance--or maybe I should say East-bloc like appearance
) to a Glock. I haven't shot a Glock, so I can't compare the triggers but the Viking is a traditional (can be fired) single action/double action trigger.
The hammer is protected by the walls of the slide to prevent snagging, yet can still be manipulated if need be (i.e hammer lowered from full ####).
The mag release can be changed from left to right side if need be. The slide release and safety are arranged similar to a Cz 75, but the Viking is a somewhat larger "handful".
Sometimes Interammo throws accessories in with their pistols for free--check with their site from time to time.
I also forgot to mention the 9mm Makarov (yes, not a 9 x 19 mm, but one can still say it's a 9mm, eh?). A blowback (more of a compact) pistol, but one of the more accurate ones I've ever owned. Bought it years ago for $189! I think they're about $400 now.
) to a Glock. I haven't shot a Glock, so I can't compare the triggers but the Viking is a traditional (can be fired) single action/double action trigger.The hammer is protected by the walls of the slide to prevent snagging, yet can still be manipulated if need be (i.e hammer lowered from full ####).
The mag release can be changed from left to right side if need be. The slide release and safety are arranged similar to a Cz 75, but the Viking is a somewhat larger "handful".
Sometimes Interammo throws accessories in with their pistols for free--check with their site from time to time.
I also forgot to mention the 9mm Makarov (yes, not a 9 x 19 mm, but one can still say it's a 9mm, eh?). A blowback (more of a compact) pistol, but one of the more accurate ones I've ever owned. Bought it years ago for $189! I think they're about $400 now.
No offense taken.
I agree entirely; if one is in love with the design of the Beretta, AND it's going to be the only pistol you purchase, go with the original.
However, in context of this thread, I still maintain the Girsan is a good value for almost half the price of the Beretta. It would round out the collection, and not everyone is going to be putting tens of thousands of rounds through these.
Coincidentally, our local shop got a few of the MP-446's in stock. Been looking at them (repeatedly!). Feel quite nice in hand, ad are definitely very Glock-like (I know! I know! I can hear the cries of 'just get a Glock!').
Here's one of the reviews I dug up while looking deeper into this:
http://www.special-ops.org/pistol-baikal-mp-446-viking/
