Just got me a very light Forbes 30-06 + an Ultralight Leupold scope...

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In the deal i concluded with Clay @ Prophet for my first restricteds, i just pick up the first Forbes rifle model 24B 30-06 that Prophet sell, also a Leupold V-ll 3X9X33 Wide duplex Ultralight...
Rifle @ 5.4 pounds...
Scope @ 8.8 ounces...
Talley rings @ 2 ounces
This rig all dress up is under 6 pounds, it will barely hit 6 pounds with 4 rounds in it.... I wish it could been in 308 but i will suffer the ....30-06, pictures from the site when they are up... JP.
 
Congratulations, looking forward to some pictures from your end.... and of course a range report.
I find this rifle interesting as it would make a nice backpacking gun for sheep hunting, not to mention a handy carry - around gun for a 68 yr. old... me.
 
Hey JP, congrats on your Forbes... I knew from Clays "Forbes Thread" that you were going to pick one up... You and I both prefer the SA .308 family of calibers... Being the classy, subtle sorts that we are... But truth be told, I have a couple Ought Sixes squirreled away also... Good shooting!
 
hoytcanon said:
Hey JP, congrats on your Forbes... I knew from Clays "Forbes Thread" that you were going to pick one up... You and I both prefer the SA .308 family of calibers... Being the classy, subtle sorts that we are... But truth be told, I have a couple Ought Sixes squirreled away also... Good shooting!
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At the beginning of the year i never had an ougt six of my life... but now i have 3... Why not... JP.
 
5 ounces for a synthetic sling....
4.5 ounces for 4 rounds...
Add that to the 5 pounds 15 ounces of the rifle, scope, rings...
We have a rifle all in @ 6.5 pounds 30-06, its like carrying a 22 lr... JP.
 
caramel said:
In the deal i concluded with Clay @ Prophet for my first restricteds, i just pick up the first Forbes rifle model 24B 30-06 that Prophet sell, also a Leupold V-ll 3X9X33 Wide duplex Ultralight...
Rifle @ 5.4 pounds...
Scope @ 8.8 ounces...
Talley rings @ 2 ounces
This rig all dress up is under 6 pounds, it will barely hit 6 pounds with 4 rounds in it.... I wish it could been in 308 but i will suffer the ....30-06, pictures from the site when they are up... JP.
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Yeah...no.
Don't get to excited yet until you scale it first, I can guarantee you'll be well over 6lbs scoped. When you add your sling and three in the magazine you'll be closer to seven pounds.
Forbes LLC is listing a weight of "approximately" 5.8lbs.
The only way I can figure you came to your 5lb 4oz weight is by quoting the article from American Rifleman. What some folks fail to realize is the 24B that they tested was a pre-production prototype wearing a #1 contour barrel at 23 inches.


My Model 20 currently has a Leupold VX-3 3.5-10X40mm that I use for load development, it goes
6lbs 2ozs loaded.
When I carry it, it wears a Swaro 3-9X36 and it will scale at 5lbs 15ozs all-up.


 
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bearkilr said:
You mean 5 lbs. 8 oz, which is 5.5 lbs. on their website. I'm guessing it depends on caliber as a 30-06 tube will have more metal removed in the bore than a 25-06. Kimber are so far the only ones I've seen that list actual weight of their rifles in different calibers.
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Exactly what I meant, thanks for the correction bearkilr.

It will be interesting to see how well of a showing the stainless Forbes model 20 makes in the ultralight market. I am hoping for big things from Forbes LLC.
I respect the fact that much like Kimber they show a real interest in producing a factory rifle that embodies the true ultralight concept and sticks to the fundamentals which are svelte,purpose built actions scaled to a specific cartridge, full length minimum contour barrels and a full-size, high quality stock.

When it comes to ultralights in the 6lb range all-up, I've pretty much done it all from full custom clones to slabbed, milled, fluted and molested model 700's and Sevens.
These days I'm only interested in true "micro" or scaled down short actions,and that whittles it down to two in the safe, a Kimber 84M in 7-08 and the NULA Model 20 in .284
Both designs have their pros and cons in equal measure I would say, and although I have never had a conversation with Nehemiah Sirkus (designer of the Kimber 84M action) as an innovator and designer I hold him in the same esteem as Mel Forbes, who I have spoken to at length on numerous occasions.
 
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Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Exactly what I meant, thanks for the correction bearkilr.

It will be interesting to see how well of a showing the stainless Forbes model 20 makes in the ultralight market. I am hoping for big things from Forbes LLC. I respect the fact that much like Kimber they show a real interest in producing a factory rifle that embodies the true ultralight concept and sticks to the fundamentals which are svelte,purpose built actions scaled to a specific cartridge, full length barrels and a full-size, high quality stock.
When it comes to ultralights in the 6lb range all-up, I've pretty much done it all from full custom clones to slabbed, milled, fluted and molested model 700's and Sevens.
These days I'm only interested in true "micro" or scaled down short actions,and that whittles it down to two in the safe, a Kimber 84M in 7-08 and the NULA Model 20 in .284
Both designs have their pros and cons in equal measure I would say, and although I have never had a conversation with Nehemiah Sirkus (designer of the Kimber 84M action) as an innovator and designer I hold him in the same esteem as Mel Forbes, who I have spoken to at length on numerous occasions.
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Maybe you'd like this one; I had a Corlane's RMR Alpine Extreme in 308. It was right at 4.5 lbs bare. Slabbed Remington M7 action with pretty much all other metal parts fluted or skeletonized, set in a Wildcat stock. That little gun had a nasty,sharp recoil. It shot really well, but I found it too light, it felt like I was shooting my kid's Henry Mini Bolt 22 converted to 375 H&H. :D
 
bearkilr said:
Maybe you'd like this one; I had a Corlane's RMR Alpine Extreme in 308. It was right at 4.5 lbs bare. Slabbed Remington M7 action with pretty much all other metal parts fluted or skeletonized, set in a Wildcat stock. That little gun had a nasty,sharp recoil. It shot really well, but I found it too light, it felt like I was shooting my kid's Henry Mini Bolt 22 converted to 375 H&H. :D
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Hey bearkilr if you happen to have a picture of that little Alpine extreme please post it, or PM me a pic if you want, I've heard of them but never seen one.

Corlanes does half decent assembly work...pricing is a little out there. They built me a .284win lightweight using an action by Defiance machine. Corlanes aka. RMR dubbed that action their "thinhorn" but man was it ever a chunky monkey! It shot decent but went down the road pretty quick. For the life of me I can't figure why I just had to have a hinged floorplate on that particular one. Live and learn.
IIRC a member here on CGN who goes by the username "spurly" owns or owned an Alpine Extreme based off an emaciated Seven as well, I believe he was shooting three into an inch and was quite happy with it.
I really respect how light the Sevens can go, but I personally don't know of anyone running 4.5lbs bare with a 22" barrel.
As for the "too light" comment, I agree 100%, you can certainly reach that point of diminishing returns...but I think that may vary a little for each individual. I was blessed with a half decent tolerance for recoil, but I'm not the greatest shot off the bench by any stretch of the imagination! The rifle goes lighter my groups are less tighter.

I've always lusted for a first gen. Kifaru Ramblin rifle, but something tells me it would be much sweeter to let that rifle live in my dreams.
 
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Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
IIRC a member here on CGN who goes by the username "spurly" owns or owned an Alpine Extreme based off an emaciated Seven as well, I believe he was shooting three into an inch and was quite happy with it.
I really respect how light the Sevens can go, but I personally don't know of anyone running 4.5lbs bare with a 22" barrel.
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That's the one I had actually. I think it had a 20" bbl though IIRC.
 
Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Hey bearkilr if you happen to have a picture of that little Alpine extreme please post it, or PM me a pic if you want, I've heard of them but never seen one.

Corlanes does half decent assembly work...pricing is a little out there. They built me a .284win lightweight using an action by Defiance machine. Corlanes aka. RMR dubbed that action their "thinhorn" but man was it ever a chunky monkey! It shot decent but went down the road pretty quick. For the life of me I can't figure why I just had to have a hinged floorplate on that particular one. Live and learn.
IIRC a member here on CGN who goes by the username "spurly" owns or owned an Alpine Extreme based off an emaciated Seven as well, I believe he was shooting three into an inch and was quite happy with it.
I really respect how light the Sevens can go, but I personally don't know of anyone running 4.5lbs bare with a 22" barrel.
As for the "too light" comment, I agree 100%, you can certainly reach that point of diminishing returns...but I think that may vary a little for each individual. I was blessed with a half decent tolerance for recoil, but I'm not the greatest shot off the bench by any stretch of the imagination! The rifle goes lighter my groups are less tighter.

I've always lusted for a first gen. Kifaru Ramblin rifle, but something tells me it would be much sweeter to let that rifle live in my dreams.
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Spurly has my .284 I had built on a Model 7 SS and I did the wildcat. With 6x42 and talley's it was 6lbs. Shot well under an inch and I do miss it. ;) it had a 22" tube.
I have little respect for Corlanes work, and their guarantees.
 
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