what other cartridges will shoot through a .410 ?

kennymo said:
Some of the newer H+R 410's had a removable choke tube with a rifled insert for firing 45 Colt. (Snake tamer?). Not sure what accuracy was like with only a few inches of rifling at the end of the barrel though.
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Actually, I think the entire barrel is rifled for 45 Colt on the new H&R's and the "choke" is actually an anti-rifling device designed to stop/counteract the spin at the last second while shooting shot from the rifled barrel.
 
If you're feeling very adventurous go on youtube and check out Iraqveteran8888. He does some crazy things in his quest to find out exactly how far he can push his old single shot .410. http://m.youtube.com/#/user/Iraqveteran8888?&desktop_uri=/user/Iraqveteran8888

I like the Captain Arab, which is a fishing weight stuffed into a shell. The field tip from an arrow worked surprisingly well.

Not recommending you try it at home, but I think they made it up to .454 Casull before that tired old warhorse finally had enough.
 
.444 Marlin might fit in the hole

all kidding aside wouldn't a jacketed bullet find issue with the choke in a .410 barrel?
 
Canadian_Zuk said:
Actually, I think the entire barrel is rifled for 45 Colt on the new H&R's and the "choke" is actually an anti-rifling device designed to stop/counteract the spin at the last second while shooting shot from the rifled barrel.
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You are absolutely correct. You only use the choke when shooting shot. I've had 1" 5 shot groups at 25 yards with my Survivor shooting handloads with my own cast 230gn TC 452 bullets and 7gn HP-38.Would like to take a deer with that load some time.
 
I hope to hell that the gun used in the video never got back out into the market for some poor unsuspecting guy to buy. Shotguns are designed to operate at low pressures and I'm sure even the old 44-40s operated at much higher pressures. They got away with it because they were using remote firing. I value my face and eyes too much to shoulder a .410 and trying to fire rifle cartridges through it. Talk to someone who has experienced a cartridge failure in a rifle with a proper shell in it and see what they have to say. Maybe someone is fool enough to try it but it will not be me!

Jim
 
OntJim said:
I hope to hell that the gun used in the video never got back out into the market for some poor unsuspecting guy to buy. Shotguns are designed to operate at low pressures and I'm sure even the old 44-40s operated at much higher pressures. They got away with it because they were using remote firing. I value my face and eyes too much to shoulder a .410 and trying to fire rifle cartridges through it. Talk to someone who has experienced a cartridge failure in a rifle with a proper shell in it and see what they have to say. Maybe someone is fool enough to try it but it will not be me!

Jim
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At least for the Iraqveteran8888 gun, they tested it all the way to destruction. The amount of abuse that old thing took was amazing.
 
I have two old Lee Enfields, 2 1/2" & 3", that I will use to play with. I agree with the thought of being mighty careful firing rifle cartridges out of a .410 shotgun.

A lady once said she thought I was just playing Russian roulette with all my old military rifles, that eventually one might come apart. Anyone who watched the video of that Garand coming apart in that woman's hands would be thinking twice.
 
Just my 2 cents but I would suggest using a .410 as a .410, period. There's lots of slug and buckshot options.
There are lots of youtube accidents waiting to happen out there, 44-40, 303 Brit, 45 Colt, and 444 Marlin, for your own sake Google some cartridge dimensions.
I had a TC Contender 410/45 Colt and it was great with .410 but a joke with the (lately worth it's weight in gold) 45 Colt and as stated in the manual I had to remove the choke to shoot it, a fraction of the velocity and my kid is more accurate at 25yds with a sling shot.

But speaking to 'older' scatter guns, The Shotgun Book by the late Jack O'Connor lists the following regarding choking for the .410 bore shotgun.
Data include (in order): boring, bore diameter, muzzle diameter, constriction, and percent at 25yds. in 30-inch circle:

Full Choke, .410, .396, .014, 70
Modified, .410, .405, .005, 60
Imp. Cyl., .410, .408, .002, 50
Cylinder, .410, .410, None, 40

Measuring my own Remington Full Choke I found it to be .388" and the Mod .398"

I cut open Federal 000 Buckshot the other day, the pellets were .350" and with the wad .396"
This morning I cut open a Winchester rifled slug, and voila the base is .396".
It seems to me the manufacturers are attempting to save us from ourselves when it comes to shooting anything out of a full choke .410.
That being said, worth pulling out the calipers before you try slugs. Safe shooting everyone.
 
?? As always, my opinion....

Isn't this a 'safety first' sport?

WTF is going on with people recommending someone with a old gun of unknown quality/repair shooting other than what was recommended by the manufacture..

It is like the people that make their SKS go full auto. If the Russians didn't do it, there was a reason! This is not 'can I put a baseball through my tennis ball launcher?' thread... Its basically a 'what are the chances of me loosing my hands or eyesight by trying something randoms on the 'net say I should'.

Good grief. If you want a 44LC, buy one.

C
 
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