Couldn't resiste, Just ordered a HC3R mag for the 10/22

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With all the excellent reviews I found, I just ordered a HC3R magazine from Wolverine Supplies for 29.95$ :cool:. 10$ less than the average price on the web. Also ordered the 3-20 rounds stripper clips pack with it for 12,90$.

I am sure this will save my thumb from reloading the 10 rounds Ruger magazine and the loading issues with the original magazine I often faced at the range.

On the downside, will probably shoot more… Well is that really a downside??? :dancingbanana:
 
jfchester said:
With all the excellent reviews I found, I just ordered a HC3R magazine from Wolverine Supplies for 29.95$ :cool:. 10$ less than the average price on the web. Also ordered the 3-20 rounds stripper clips pack with it for 12,90$.

I am sure this will save my thumb from reloading the 10 rounds Ruger magazine and the loading issues with the original magazine I often faced at the range.

On the downside, will probably shoot more… Well is that really a downside??? :dancingbanana:
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I took my buddy to the range the other night. Both of us had our SR22s and I had only my Hc3r which he wanted to try. I shoot Federal blue box bulk in my gun, he brought the crappy outsourced CCI Blazer. My ammo works flawlessly in my mag and gun, the Cci didn't in his. Wouldn't seat properly, wouldn't feed reliably.

So, ammo seems to matter with these mags. YMMV
 
I've been having trouble with mine. Tried AE, dynapoint and win HV, every round stovepipes.
I've watched the load vid and I seem to get them to angle right and when I push on the bullet the spring moves but still, they stove pipe. I have a TS barrel and I don't want to damage the barrel end.
Any tips?
Need to try rem and blazer. I need to shoot HP for gophers on my friends land, he doesn't want me shooting RN, which I understand.
I bet M22 would be good but they are RN. Gurrrrrr
Fyi, the gun shoots anything using the 10 round mag. I have a power customs extracter.
So I'm guessing it's the hc3r mag.
 
little_airwolf said:
I've been having trouble with mine. Tried AE, dynapoint and win HV, every round stovepipes.
I've watched the load vid and I seem to get them to angle right and when I push on the bullet the spring moves but still, they stove pipe. I have a TS barrel and I don't want to damage the barrel end.
Any tips?
Need to try rem and blazer. I need to shoot HP for gophers on my friends land, he doesn't want me shooting RN, which I understand.
I bet M22 would be good but they are RN. Gurrrrrr
Fyi, the gun shoots anything using the 10 round mag. I have a power customs extracter.
So I'm guessing it's the hc3r mag.
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I mostly shoot M-22 andd CCI Standard, but the mag also feeds Winchester 555 white box with no problems. Maybe give those a try.

If you got the mag at Shooting Edge, you might want to return it. Maybe you got a bad one.
 
little_airwolf said:
I've been having trouble with mine. Tried AE, dynapoint and win HV, every round stovepipes.
I've watched the load vid and I seem to get them to angle right and when I push on the bullet the spring moves but still, they stove pipe. I have a TS barrel and I don't want to damage the barrel end.
Any tips?
Need to try rem and blazer. I need to shoot HP for gophers on my friends land, he doesn't want me shooting RN, which I understand.
I bet M22 would be good but they are RN. Gurrrrrr
Fyi, the gun shoots anything using the 10 round mag. I have a power customs extracter.
So I'm guessing it's the hc3r mag.
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Stove pipe are not magazine related, but ammo/gun related.

While there are trends, two 10/22 won't necessarily like the same ammo. Numbers of rounds you fired, mods and production tolerances will make the results vary.

You have to find what works for you. Go to a local gun shop and get different brands and test it. This is the best way to find what works for your rifle.
 
little_airwolf said:
If the gun shoots fine with any ammo with the stock mag and stove pipes with the hc3r mag, why would it be the gun/ammo issue?
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Sorry, but it wasn't clear for me that the rifle was fine with a different mag. The extraction on a 10/22 is related to the bolt movement which is initiated by the ammo. The reason of my comment.

I am no gunsmith, but the after a little thinking, the only reason I see would be that the magazine interfere with the bolt movement. If I were you, I would look at the lip of the magazine and see if there are any marks of friction.

An easy way to see if there is friction is to put some dry erase marker on the lip of the mag and cycle the bolt manually a few times. If the marker wears off, you have your answer. You may do the same thing with you original mag and see if the results are different. If you have unwanted friction, some polishing might do the trick. You may look in the pistol section, the GSG 1911 22LR have issues related to friction and it can all be fixed with some easy polyshing. My 2 cents.

Also, I strongly suggest you to ask this question on http://www.rimfirecentral.com forum. The guys there are very knowledgeable and will be able to help you, I am sure.
 
I've told the same thing. Thanks!

So I tried it for a second time. Strange thing is the 10 round mag rubs just abit in the middle. However the hc3r mag doesn't show any rubbing. I don't think it touches the bolt at all.
The feed lips are different between the two.
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The back mag is the hc3r.
 
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Little airwolf, did you check to see if the feed lips rub the bolt in the rifle like we discussed in another thread? This is a common problem for BC steel lips mags so it may be the case withthe HC3Rs. Insert an empty mag in the rifle and slowly cycle the action watching to see if the bolt contacts the feed lips. Another issue inherent to hicap mags is simply the spring pressure pushes the next round up into the bottom of the bolt while cycling. It can also cause the round that's being stripped to dig its rim into the soft bullet of the round underneath. That cannot be rectified completely but loading the mags to max capacity and letting them sit for a couple days usually helps. Other issues are friction in the action from rough factory finishing in the bolt raceway, guide rod, trigger assembly etc. Factory mags don't push up on the bolt much at all, which is another reason why hicap mags just aren't perfect. Polishing the action and radiusing the bolt can help a lot. So can deburring the hammer spring strut.
 
Yes I checked the clearance with a dry marker. Believe it or not, the factory mag rubs the bolt slightly in the middle of the feed lips. The hc3r doesn't touch at all. The round cycles the bolt full back and loads the hammer, however the spent round stovepipes but the bolt loads the new round and partly chambers the round.
I've tried AE, dynapoint and win HV.
I hope it isn't the ammo that is the issue.
I've also tried handloading and still every round stovepipes. Gurrrr
 
OK, does the HC3R have an ejector like the factory mag? Maybe there could be an issue there. It sounds like a minor detail is amiss somewhere as the rifle seems to be functioning as it should aside from that stovepiping.
 
fired about 400 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag , and out of those 400 about 200 were stovepipe or FTE. one mag completely loosened up beyond usable during shoot.

Overall good mags, I think CCI mini mags arent good for it. also 20 rounds per mag is more reliable that 25 ( less FTE or FTF).

will try another ammo .
 
little_airwolf said:
Tried M-22 yesterday. Still stovepipe every round.
Thats dynapoint, AE, m-22 and win HV.
I must have a dud!
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I was out with mine yesterday too. Fired about 200 rounds of mixed M-22, CCI Standard, Winchester Super-x and Blazer bulk. Worked perfectly. You definitely got a dud.

It's funny...I usually get the duds of everything. Maybe my luck is changing!
 
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