'short' #4's

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Are #4's with "S" stocks more, or less desireable? Or really makes no difference?

I have a full, beautiful #4 that was just way too sweet to pass up on, and she shoots/operates like a dream, but the 'S' stock just doesn't fit me as well as my regular ones do. The diffence seems to only be less than an inch, but it is noticeable when being operated.

Because of the condition, I have zero interest in giving it back for money, but I would certainly consider a swap for one of equal worthyness that had a regular sized stock - is this worth exploring, or just a fruitless stab in the dark?
 
"...noticeable when being operated..." And shooting a too short stock will friggin' hurt. Value only matters to a shooter who needs a short. Otherwise it's just another No. 4.
Whether it's worth being a trading rifle depends not only on condition. Matching S/N's and proof of good headspace(matching S/N's doesn't guarantee anything and you should have gotten that when you bought it) matters too.
 
TargetAcquired said:
Are #4's with "S" stocks more, or less desireable? Or really makes no difference?

I have a full, beautiful #4 that was just way too sweet to pass up on, and she shoots/operates like a dream, but the 'S' stock just doesn't fit me as well as my regular ones do. The diffence seems to only be less than an inch, but it is noticeable when being operated.

Because of the condition, I have zero interest in giving it back for money, but I would certainly consider a swap for one of equal worthyness that had a regular sized stock - is this worth exploring, or just a fruitless stab in the dark?
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Just buy one of those 20 dollar neoprene slip on pads. I use them on milsurps all the time.
 
Butts for the Number 4 Rifle were made in:

Bantam
Short
Normal
Long
Extra-Long
Extra-Extra-Long.

Note that the last two were made only in Canada.

All you have to do is source a Normal butt and you should be away.

It all depends on what you feel best with. Funny thing is that I take a Normal, but I have a Short on my SMLE Mark I***........ and I shoot better with it that way.

All you do is remove the fore-end, open the Butt Trap, put in a long screwdriver and undo the Stock Bolt, swap Butts, put her back togther and you are in business. Takes about 20 minutes, start to finish. Just be sure that you get the Washer and Spring into the new Butt.

It was a standard fix by Armourers. If your rifle has numbered woodwork, be sure you hang onto your numbered Butt.

Have fun!
 
I thought about replacing the butt, but it just matches so nicely and is original to the rifle, I would ultimately prefer to just keep her as she is.

I can shoot it, and am not desperate for change, but I can't deny that the regular stock just fits better and is a little more comfy.

I never knew about the XXL stock before.
 
Variable length butts were carried over to the FN rifle and troops could be taken to the armourer to have their rifles "sized" for them. A shorter butt makes less of a difference when you are shooting from the bench. The PAST strap on recoil pad is a good idea as you can do a lot of shooting in a session w/o provoking a flinch.
 
smellie said:
Butts for the Number 4 Rifle were made in:

Bantam
Short
Normal
Long
Extra-Long
Extra-Extra-Long.


All you do is remove the fore-end, open the Butt Trap, put in a long screwdriver and undo the Stock Bolt, swap Butts, put her back togther and you are in business. Takes about 20 minutes, start to finish. Just be sure that you get the Washer and Spring into the new Butt.

Have fun!
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Is this required for a #4? I was not aware of any link of the forend to the butt.
 
Removing the fore end on all Lee-Enfields before the butt is a good practice to get into, that way when you do go to remove the butt from a No1 with the square butt bolt end you don't have to worry about a split fore end.
 
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