New loads for DE .44 mag

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I took my new DE out to the range last week with some .44 loads that I made for my Ruger S Redhawk - these were 9.3 gr 800-x with a 240 gr berry JHP. The lighter load wasn't enough to properly cycle the DE.

So, I'm thinking I'm gonna make up some new loads using titegroup for the DE and was thinking about starting at 9.5 gr and working up to 10 gr (same 240 gr JHP.

I also have some autocomp and W231 that I could use, but I'm trying to standardize on one powder (in this case titegroup).

Any one see any issues with going this route?
 
Based on another thread earlier in the week, tightgroup at max charge won't cycle the desert Eagle properly.

I would use h110/w296 for proper magnum loads, it is a magnum round after all.
 
Thanks, guess I'll have to try to find some H110.

In the meantime, I do also have some SR4756, Longshot and WST. Any of these going to work well in a DE until I can get some H110?

Where / how does one determine if a powder is fast or slower burning?

Lastly, If I do start using H110 for the DE, any problem using a lighter load for 44 mag for my Super Redhawk?
TIA
 
Here is a powder (all brands) burn rate chart, http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

Even though powders have a similar burn rate, you still need an amount for each powder as density is different.

H110 and w296 are the same powder FYI, so ask for both.

With the powders you listed, Longshot is the slowest so I would try that. Hodgdon site lists 11 to 12gr of Longshot with a 240gr bullet.


What do you mean a lighter load for your redhawk? If you mean a smaller charge of h110, it doesn't do well with charges less then suggested. Hodgdon says don't go 3% less then the minium load.
 
Spawn - thanks for the info, been to Hodgdon site lots of times for load data, never seen that anywhere.

By lighter I just mean closer to min (not below) for the Super Redhawk.
 
The only powders that have reliably cycled my DE have been H110 / W296. I've tried all kinds of others.. worked well in my 629 but no others worked reliably in my DE other than these two. She likes nice, hot loads... the fireball produced is just an added bonus!
 
kb007 said:
Spawn - thanks for the info, been to Hodgdon site lots of times for load data, never seen that anywhere.

By lighter I just mean closer to min (not below) for the Super Redhawk.
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My understanding is that you don't go below the min as this can lead to detonation. You are aware that the Redhawk is considered one of the strongest 44Magnum revolvers? If I had to guess I would say that it can probably handle stronger loads than the DE.

If you just want cheap loads for plinking then start at the min the load table tells you for the powder bullet etc. and then work up from there till you get something accurate for your gun.
 
Clotho said:
My understanding is that you don't go below the min as this can lead to detonation. You are aware that the Redhawk is considered one of the strongest 44Magnum revolvers? If I had to guess I would say that it can probably handle stronger loads than the DE.

If you just want cheap loads for plinking then start at the min the load table tells you for the powder bullet etc. and then work up from there till you get something accurate for your gun.
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This is a myth, downloading with H110/W296 will not blow up your gun, you may however get mis-fires and hang-fires.
 
09outlander said:
This is a myth, downloading with H110/W296 will not blow up your gun, you may however get mis-fires and hang-fires.
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Here is what is on the Hodgdon web site:

For those loads listed where a starting load is not shown, start 10% below the suggested maximum load and then approach maximums carefully, watching for any sign of pressure (difficult extraction, cratered and flattened or blown primers, and unusual recoil). H110 and Winchester 296 loads should not be reduced more than 3%.

Reduce H110 and Winchester 296 loads 3% and work up from there. H110 and Winchester 296 if reduced too much will cause inconsistent ignition. In some cases it will lodge a bullet in the barrel, causing a hazardous situation (Barrel Obstruction). This may cause severe personal injury or death to users or bystanders. DO NOT REDUCE H110 LOADS BY MORE THAN 3%.
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Used as recommended it is hard to beat these 2 powders in full power magnum handgun loads.
 
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